Two Princes shall come: One will be cut off, one will come to destroy The prophet Daniel witnessed the transition from Babylon to Medo-Persia and learned that the Greek empire would rise next. At that time, Greece was already a significant power, so its future dominance was not unexpected. The Jewish people had interacted with Greeks for generations. Rome, however, was still an unknown and distant power. Yet, many prophecies focused on Rome, describing it as a coming prince. Daniel 9 explains Christ’s first coming, the situation with His people, and why Jerusalem is ultimately destroyed. Daniel was crying over Babylon’s destruction of Jerusalem and worrying about whether they would be accepted again by God and able to rebuild the city and the temple. In answer to this prayer, God sends the angel Gabriel to explain the role of his people and Jerusalem going forward. He is told that Jerusalem would be rebuilt after a command would come “to restore and to build Jerusalem” (Dan. 9:25). This did not mean it would remain standing; the angel explains that “Messiah the Prince” would come, and even the year He would come. The angel explains that, after being rebuilt, Jerusalem would have a prolonged time to seek redemption: a full 70 prophetic weeks, which is 490 years, since one day equals one year in the prophetic timeline.
Daniel 9:24: “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy.” The angel explains that after the word comes to restore the city, 69 prophetic weeks will pass, and then the Messiah will make Himself known. Daniel 9:25: “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks…”
This prophecy tells us that the Messiah would come exactly 483 years after the command to restore Jerusalem. The decree from Artaxerxes to Ezra in 457 BC, when combined with the 483 years, brings us to 27 AD—the year Christ was baptized and began His ministry. According to the angel, this marked the start of the final week of seven years. In the middle of this period, the Messiah would be “cut off,” which occurred in 31 AD, the true date of Christ’s crucifixion.
Daniel 9:27: “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” The midpoint of the seven years—3.5 years—marks the length of Christ’s public ministry, from His baptism to His crucifixion. This left another 3.5 years for Jerusalem and its people to “finish the transgression” before the end of the 70 weeks. In other words, God gave Jerusalem an additional 3.5 years after Christ’s death. During this time, the apostles received the Holy Spirit and began preaching and healing throughout Jerusalem, teaching its people. Like Christ, the apostles had 3.5 years to preach before they too faced rejection. After persistent resistance, the conflict reached its peak with the stoning of Stephen, a servant in the first Christian assembly. This event triggered a great persecution against Christ’s followers, forcing many to flee Jerusalem: “And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.” (Acts 8:1) It’s important to note that this event sealed the fate of Jerusalem and its people, marking the end of the period given to them to “finish their transgressions.” Jesus was willing to forgive them because they did not fully grasp the seriousness of their crime at first. However, even when they did come to understand, they still refused to listen or repent. The 70 weeks are directly connected to the fall feasts, counted from the fall of 457 BC: Christ was baptized in the fall, Stephen was stoned in the fall, and the 70 weeks concluded in the fall. While God’s calendar normally begins in the spring, in the month of Abib (or Nisan), this prophetic timeline is measured from fall to fall because the seventh month is the designated month of decision in God’s law. On the Great Day of Atonement in that seventh month, the people were either judged for failing to repent and reform, or they celebrated with rejoicing and the announcement of the year of Jubilee. It was a day of mercy and forgiveness—or of rejection. The fate of the people depended on the condition of their hearts. This was a time when God wanted captives freed, lands returned, and great rejoicing. Because the end of the 70 weeks represented either redemption or judgment, it was set in the seventh month. Instead of restoration, the people faced rejection. The 70-week prophecy is drawn from a longer timeline of 2,300 mornings and evenings, which also concludes on the Day of Atonement. This division marks a split in the church: some receive blessing, others judgment. The end of the 2,300-day period points to a judgment for Christ’s followers, while the first 70 weeks were for the Jewish people. Christians who refused to repent and accept God’s righteousness as revealed in His law were rejected at the end of those 2,300 days. Because the prophecy is centered on the feasts of the seventh month, God gave it in terms of mornings, evenings, and weeks, connecting it to the Sanctuary. In the sanctuary, daily sacrifices concluded on the Day of Atonement, when everyone’s standing was judged and the “sanctuary was cleansed.” Similarly, the 70 prophetic weeks make up exactly 10 jubilee cycles of 49 years each (7 x 7). Both prophecies focus on the seventh month, symbolizing a day of judgment and deliverance. While the 70 weeks applied to the earthly temple and its people, the 2,300 years relate to the heavenly sanctuary, which includes both. Daniel 8:14: “unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”. Daniel 9:24: “Seventy weeks are determined [châthak: cut off] upon thy people and upon thy holy city”.
By silencing the voice of truth in the temple and Jerusalem, and forbidding it to be spoken, the people brought about God’s rejection of Jerusalem. The city was no longer the city of truth, nor were its people priests of the Most High. Jerusalem was not “holy” anymore, and they were no longer a “holy nation.” They had been given 70 prophetic weeks to “anoint the most holy,” dedicate themselves to the New Covenant, and receive pardon, but they refused. As a result, they were judged in the seventh month and rejected, missing out on their jubilee of mercy and restoration. Stephen spoke about this in his address to the people of Jerusalem and as he was being stoned.
What would have happened if they had received Christ? The temple would have remained standing as a historical testimony and a memorial of the Old and New Covenants. It would have served as a witness instead of a place of ritual, becoming a place of learning. God could have ruled from an earthly temple, not only a heavenly one. Jerusalem would have been the city of truth, where people would learn God’s law, His ways, and His salvation. The Bible always presents two timelines: one fulfilled if the people are faithful (blessing) and one if they are unfaithful (curse). Jerusalem could have been God’s center forever: “And many people [nations] shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem” (Isa.2:3) And: “How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!” (Isa 52:7) But if unfaithful, they would be driven away:
“The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth” Deu 28:25 . …And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. Deu 28:37 And: “The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far …And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down” (Deut.28:49&52) As history shows us, and as Christ concluded, Jerusalem ceased to be the center of worship and was destroyed. As prophesied, they rejected their Messiah despite God telling them even the year He would come almost 500 years before. Even though wise men of the east announced His birth, shepherds in the fields, and prophets in Jerusalem, they were still unprepared because they would not believe. Through the temple priest and his miracle son, they had been forewarned of His coming, and John, as an adult, told them Christ was about to make Himself known. God gave them every chance to prepare, and they still rejected Christ. Much of this rejection stemmed from the influence of popular first-century rabbis and the emergence of a new form of Judaism that diverged from the classical faith Christ taught. Jesus rejected the oral law, later recorded as the Talmud, and its interpretation of God and His commandments. The Jewish people were already moving in a different direction, towards a version of Judaism very different from what Abraham and Moses practiced. They lost their mission and calling as they focused on rituals and politics rather than true heart transformation. Jesus tried to rescue them from these teachings and from the superstitious misunderstandings of God and His law that dominated the new doctrines. Although they claimed to honor God’s law, they ridiculed Jesus—the Law made flesh—accusing Him of being Beelzebub. Jerusalem was headed for disaster regardless; Christ’s coming marked a crossroads. They could have chosen to follow Christ and understand the law and prophets through Him, or continue on their path toward a form of Judaism from which they could not recover. Sadly, they chose the latter. Another reason Jerusalem and its people were given only 490 years to turn from their sins is that Christ’s coming introduced a new covenant and a new way of relating to God. The old system would no longer function as it had before. From that point on, their standing with God depended entirely on whether they followed Christ. If not, they would come to the end of their election and calling. There was no way to make reconciliation with God outside Christ. He was the New Priest. The angel explained, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate” (Dan 9:27). Jesus was the true King of Israel and Judah, and when He was rejected, they were left without a King, atonement, or priest. Naturally, this meant losing their status as God’s people and as “a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation” (Exo. 19:6). They could not be a holy nation after rejecting the only One who could sanctify and make them holy.
Rome in Daniel 9 The people of the prince that shall come—Rome—are the prophesied power mentioned in Daniel 2, 7, and 8. This power destroys the city; the “flood” refers to Rome’s ongoing, relentless destruction of all things belonging to God, a process that lasts until the end of time. The phrase “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary” is generally understood to mean Jerusalem and the temple. However, the word used for “temple” here is just “qôdesh.” In Daniel 5:2, the temple in Jerusalem is called “the temple [hêykal] which was in Jerusalem.” In Daniel’s prayer earlier in chapter 9, he uses “miqdâsh,” meaning a dedicated, holy house. The temple was sometimes called הֵיכָל (hekal) or בַּיִת (bayit, “house”) with “qôdesh” attached, but rarely “qôdesh” alone. The language in Daniel’s prophecy comes from the angel Gabriel, who explains that sacrifice and oblation cease when the Messiah is “cut off.” Jesus said of the temple, “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate” (Matt. 23:38). He then departed from Jerusalem via the Mount of Olives, just as He had left the first temple before the Babylonians destroyed it, symbolizing its abandonment once more. Was the angel Gabriel saying that the temple in Jerusalem remained holy after Christ was rejected—even though every sacrifice performed there was now an act of rejecting Christ’s salvation? In Daniel, the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem is encompassed by the term “city.” The “sanctuary” here likely does not refer to the Jewish temple, but to what is truly holy to God, which Daniel 8 describes as being “trodden under foot.” According to the testimony of Ron Wyatt, the holy sanctuary items were beneath the site of Christ’s crucifixion, and His blood ratified the new covenant there. This means Rome literally trampled on holy things and the holy covenant when they besieged Jerusalem. Later, they further profaned the covenant by establishing the Papacy. When Christ ratified the new covenant, a new holy place and a new holy covenant came into existence. Daniel 9 shows that Rome would not only destroy Jerusalem, but also attack what is holy in the New Covenant. Rome would trample on God’s sanctuary and holy covenant both literally and spiritually.
About this power, God said: “he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand” (Dan.8:25). The same wording is used on Christ’s second coming: “Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces” (Dan 2:34), saying Christ Himself will take this power no human has been able to stop the influence of. Likewise in Daniel 7, we see the little horn dealt with when Christ comes. All of this is important and identifies the power that destroyed Jerusalem as Rome, and that a leader in Rome will continue to provoke God and exhaust His people till Christ returns. It helps us see that Gabriel is speaking of the same power over and over. And consistently points to Rome.
The setting of the verse gives us more details: Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary [qôdesh]; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation’s are determined”. Re-examining this text, we therefore see identified the power which destroys the city as the same that in Daniel 8 is said to step on God’s truth and suppress God’s people, and in Daniel 7 to try to change times and laws and blaspheme: “to give both the sanctuary [qôdesh] and the host to be trodden under foot”. The “sanctuary” [qôdesh] would not be cleansed until after 2300 mornings and evenings, ruling out the Jewish temple as what Gabriel is speaking of. In Daniel 9, the angel Gabriel refers back to the earlier vision Daniel received in chapter 8 and identifies who it is speaking of and when these prophecies begin to be fulfilled. By doing so, the Angel Gabriel identifies Rome by placing the events mentioned in Daniel 8 after Christ’s first coming and after Jerusalem is destroyed. This excludes the popular idea that Daniel 8 spoke of the Seleucid Empire and Antiochus Epiphanes. The angel Gabriel then continues to explain that it “shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolation are determined”. Again saying it will have influence till the end of time. Therefore, the book of Daniel itself, through its time prophecies, identifies the beast and its horn, the horn in Daniel 8, and the associated crimes. This evidence is so clear that some, seeking to divert attention from Papal Rome, have proposed moving the last seven years of the prophecy to the end times as a future Antichrist, thus removing the focus from Rome. However, when we compare the visions that share the same timeline, such interpretations are exposed as unfounded.
Just as shown in Daniel’s vision, the Roman beast would have a horn that continued its attack against God and waged war against His people until the end. However, its period of trampling the “holy” would eventually be interrupted. The book of Revelation also describes these events and provides further details.
In summary, Daniel 9 teaches that after the Messiah, the “prince of princes”, “the prince of the covenant” is cut off, another “prince that shall come” comes to destroy. Why it happened is evident at Christ’s crucifixion, when Pilate, the Roman governor, asked the Jews, “Shall I crucify your King?” and the chief priests replied, “We have no king but Caesar” (John 19:15). It was poetic justice: they chose the murderer Barabbas over Jesus, and when asked to choose their king, they pledged loyalty to Caesar. Later, when they rebelled, Rome sent soldiers who killed many inhabitants and expelled them from the city, just as Christ and His followers had been cast out. Rome even placed its supreme god where the temple once stood. Thus, as a result of the Messiah being “cut off,” a “prince shall come and destroy the city”—and also something holy. They chose the one who would destroy them instead of the One who would have saved them—the prince of destruction over the Prince of Peace. One prince is prophesied to be killed; the other is prophesied to both destroy and prosper. The Bible provides a complete picture of the future when its passages and prophecies are understood together.
Daniel was especially curious about the meaning of the 2,300 mornings and evenings prophecy, but he was instructed to seal the vision rather than receive an explanation. We will therefore set this prophecy aside for now and address it later in our study.
In Daniel Chapter 8, the successive kingdoms are mentioned again, this time identifying “Media Persia” and “Greece” (Dan. 8:20-21). While the first power was identified already when Daniel said to Nebuchadnezzar: “thou art this head of gold” (Dan.2:38)
That left only one power to be identified: the Iron kingdom with its divisions. Jesus himself identified it, as recorded in the gospels. There are several reasons why God may have waited to name Rome explicitly, unlike the earlier kingdoms. One reason is Rome’s rapid rise to power. When the angel identified Media, Persia and Greece, it was during the reign of Babylon’s last king, around 540 BC. At that time, Rome was still a minor city ruled by kings, embroiled in local conflicts. Naming Rome too early would not only have predicted the future but might also have interfered with it, as Rome was vulnerable then. If Nebuchadnezzar or Alexander the Great had known about Rome’s future, they could have easily destroyed it. This is similar to the idea of going back in time to stop a future dictator before his crimes. If we destroyed people for sins not yet committed, we would be playing God. When one power falls, another usually rises. God does not prevent bad rulers from being born; rather, He instructs His people on how to handle challenges and offers help. In this way, God judges openly, making His judgments clear and understandable. He also places the responsibility to do good on humanity. If we are never challenged or never make our own decisions, we are neither free nor able to grow. God also tests us to see if we will do what is right. God revealed the future to Daniel; He did not force it to happen. Our decisions are what shape the future.
Rome was insignificant to everyone in the Middle East when Daniel received the visions—a small kingdom minding mostly its own business, fighting local tribes.
The Greeks and the Medo-Persians were already powerful nations when they were mentioned. God does not punish a people for crimes they have not yet committed. Instead, He gave enough information so that, when the prophecy was fulfilled, it would be clear who the power in question was. This prophecy was meant to be fully understood as it unfolded, not in advance. Another beast God did not mention by name is the USA—the second beast in Revelation 13, the power that rises before Christ’s return. If God had named this power before it existed, it would not have been called by that name; Christians might not have sought refuge there, and the USA may never have become a model for separating church and state or for promoting freedom of expression and thought.
USA became a place many could flee from religious intolerance in Europe.
A power that ultimately does evil might even have a positive impact earlier on. For the Christians fleeing European intolerance, they needed this place to grow and prosper, and so they have. Preventing this by instantly painting the bad things the USA would one day do could have changed the world to an even quicker totalitarian system by other powers, and prevented further reformation among God’s people. When people are busy surviving, they are not thriving and not growing. So, in a way, the USA can be the “bad guy” and the one who slowed down God’s judgments at the same time.
In Daniel 7, Rome is described as a terrible beast unlike any other. Its rise changed the power dynamics of the Middle East and, at first, brought a measure of stability. The Seleucid leader Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175–164 BC) had a notorious reputation. He attacked Jerusalem, killed and enslaved many, plundered the temple, and stole its treasures. He banned Jewish religious practices—including circumcision, Sabbath observance, and sacrifices. He ordered the Torah destroyed and forced Jews to take part in pagan sacrifices and eat unclean meat. He further desecrated the temple with pagan cults, executing those who resisted.
When Rome first subdued the Jews, they were allowed to live in relative peace and freely practice their faith. They could circumcise, observe the Sabbath, read the Torah, and perform their temple rituals. Rome even excused them from participating in pagan cults. Initially, Rome was a more tolerant oppressor than others. If the Jews had not revolted, they might have continued to enjoy these freedoms. Rome’s oppression was not part of God’s original plan; it was a consequence of the people’s disobedience and their rejection of God as king. Without Rome, Judea’s downfall might have happened even sooner.
ALTERNATE REALITY: This timeline shows what would have happened if the Seleucids had won their conflicts with Rome. In that scenario, Jerusalem likely would have been destroyed soon after the Jewish revolt. Instead, Rome’s defeat of the Seleucids allowed the Jewish revolt to succeed, granting the Jewish nation independence and preserving the temple for nearly 230 more years—until their later revolt against Rome, which destroyed it instead. Just like Rome, the USA, offering freedom of worship to God’s people, bought the world over 250 years more before the USA is now about to follow in the Papal footsteps and legalize persecution against God’s people, bringing the final judgment
Judea desperately needed liberation from Seleucid oppression. From a broader perspective, only Rome was strong enough to break the Seleucid grip on Judea. Without Rome, there might not have been a Jewish nation or temple for Jesus to visit. The freedoms Jews experienced under Roman rule allowed Jesus to teach and minister. Rome would not have executed Jesus without the insistence of the Jewish leaders.
Because of Antiochus IV Epiphanes’ actions, many Jews believed he was the powerwarned about in Daniel 8. The prophecy describes the Greek empire: “the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.” Then it says, “And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. …Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered” (Daniel 8:9, 11–12).
Making the Seleucid ruler Antiochus IV Epiphanes the “horn” in Daniel 8 has fooled the Jews of their time, Catholics, as well as protestants to fail to see the real enemy. Making all three seek an alliance with the same power God was trying to warn them against. This shows Satan’s clever deceptions by playing with the Biblical text, adding words, and hiding the difference in words used to make it seem to say something else. Making Antiochus the scapegoat of Rome.
If this prophecy were only about Antiochus IV Epiphanes, it would mean the greatest threat was already past, and all that remained was the restoration of God’s kingdom. Even today, focusing on Antiochus IV Epiphanes as the main power in this prophecy leads many Christians to repeat past mistakes, seeking refuge in the very power the prophecy warns against.
Although Antiochus’s actions were terrible, Jewish kings had committed similar or even greater offenses. For example, King Manasseh desecrated the temple, introduced pagan gods there, killed God’s prophets, and altered God’s feasts and times. Antiochus was neither the first nor the last to commit such acts.
The confusion over the identity of the power in Daniel 8 centers on two points. First, the text suggests that this power arises from one of the goat’s horns. Second, it appears to say that this power would take away the daily sacrifice, as Antiochus did when he forbade temple rituals. However, this interpretation is a deliberate distraction, created by God’s enemies, to mislead His people into allying themselves with the very power they are warned against.
First, the word “sacrifice” does not actually appear in the original text—translators inserted it to support their interpretation. Second, the horn in question does not emerge from one of the horns of the goat.
“And for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.” The grammar indicates that the horn comes from one of the four winds, meaning a direction, not from one of the horns themselves.
By careful wording, God makes it possible for those seeking truth to see it clearly. The text describes a progression of increasing power: the ram (Medo-Persia) “became great,” the Greek goat “became very great,” and the horn from the winds “became exceedingly great.” The grammar shows a new power, greater than the former ones, is coming. This was not true for Antiochus—he never matched the power of Alexander the Great, and his kingdom was short-lived. He was just one of the many rulers in the Greek line, not the iron kingdom.
By focusing on the Seleucid Empire as the main enemy, the Jews ended up allying with Rome. Similarly, many Christians have focused on the Seleucid ruler in this prophecy and have, in turn, formed alliances with Papal Rome. Looking back, we see that Antiochus’s actions were short-lived and not unique—similar things had happened before. Rome, however, did not just desecrate the temple area; it destroyed the temple, scattered the people of Jerusalem, and remained a powerful force through history. Antiochus was not a new power but one of a little over twenty kings in the Greek-Syrian line. He was never the greatest, nor was he independent of his own kingsline. He was known to suffer defeat. His father sent him to Rome as a hostage for a pledge before he returned, and when Antiochus tried to expand his power in Egypt, the Romans drove him back, leading him to attack Jerusalem instead. Even then, his influence was brief and far less than other kings in his line.
Let’s look at the true meaning of the text. In harmony with the previous two visions, it becomes clear that the next power did not come from the Greek empires. Instead, it was a new power, a new beast with its own horns.
“And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land”
Rome began as a minor kingdom, concerned only with its immediate surroundings. Its expansion into the Middle East was both unexpected and powerful. Rome conquered Egypt to the south, the Seleucid territories to the east, and eventually Judea and Jerusalem. The horn grew greater as it stretched east and south, which fits Rome’s history.
Daniel 8 explains perfectly the direction Rome took as it became part of the history of God’s people. They came from the west towards the east (the Seleucid kingdom), south (the Ptolemaic kingdom), and into the glorious land (Judea).
But then the direction changes upward: “And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them” (Dan. 8:10).
What earthly power could defeat the stars of heaven? In Revelation, the leaders of God’s churches—or His messengers—are called stars in Christ’s hand. In Joseph’s dream, eleven stars represented his patriarch brothers, the sons of Israel, or Jacob (Gen. 37:9–10).
Even Jesus, in His role as leader, is called a star (Num. 24:17). In another chapter of Daniel, it says, “the wise [or righteous] shall shine… as the stars for ever and ever” (Dan. 12:3).
Finally, the symbolic woman who brings forth Jesus is described as having a crown of twelve stars, often associated with the twelve tribes of Israel or, by some, the twelve apostles. Not only in the Bible but also in other cultures, stars were symbols of leadership.
So, “and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them” does not refer to angels in heaven, over whom earthly powers have no authority. Rather, it refers to the leaders of God’s people. This is what happened when Rome subdued the Jewish rulers and brought Judea under Roman rule.
The next focus continues on its crime against God’s people and God Himself.
“Dan 8:11: Yea, he magnified himself even to the e place of his sanctuary was cast down.
None other than Rome and the Jewish leaders exalted themselves against the Prince of the host. By standing face to face with Jesus Christ—the true King of the earth—mocking and crucifying Him after learning He was a true king, Rome fulfilled this prophecy. No other power before or after has done or could do such a thing. The title “Prince of the host” carries deep meaning. On earth, Jesus had not yet been crowned King; He gave up His divine nature by becoming human and was a Prince awaiting His kingdom. However, He was still the leader of the angels in heaven. “Lord of hosts” is a common biblical title for God’s authority. Jeremiah 10:16: “the LORD of hosts is his name.” Amos 4:13: “The LORD, the God of hosts, is his name.” The “Prince of hosts” likely refers to Jesus here on earth, the only time it was possible for a power to exalt itself over him.
The word “sacrifice” does not appear in the original manuscripts; it was added later, which has led to widespread misunderstanding of the text. Had this passage been correctly understood, God’s adversary would have been clearly revealed. This might even have prevented most Christians today from following religious laws established by the papacy instead of God’s own law. This demonstrates the profound impact that altering prophetic texts can have.
The next part of the prophecy is often debated: “and by him the daily was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.” Many interpreters have inserted the word “sacrifice” here to make it seem as if this refers to the earthly sanctuary in Jerusalem. However, the real meaning is connected to Christ, who had already left the earthly sanctuary. Jesus said about the Jewish temple: “your house is left unto you desolate” (Matt.23:38). In Daniel 9:24 and 27, we learn that Christ brings an end to the daily sacrifices in the temple, since God did not intend them to continue in competition with the cross. Therefore, it was not this enemy power that brought about the end of the Jewish sanctuary service—it was God. Rome did, however, destroy the temple, which was the physical end of it. The enemy’s next attack targeted the followers of the Prince of Hosts, not the Jewish temple itself. In Revelation we see Christ continuing the sanctuary connected to His earthly temple, which is His people.
Christ identifies with His people, so Rome’s persecution of Christians was an attack against the Prince of Hosts Himself and fulfilled this prophecy.
Then, as this fails to overthrow God’s truth, Rome turns and destroys its own sanctuary to their own gods: “and by him the daily was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down”. Rome throws away its own sanctuary; it desecrates its own gods. The word translated “daily” simply means something that had been continuing for a long time. Paganism had been the religion of the world through all the powerful empires and leaders. Rome stopped this line and changed its appearance. This was fulfilled when Constantine converted to Christianity, Eusebius mentions temples at Aphaca and Heliopolis, for example. He confiscated treasures and statues from some temples. Theodosius I (AD 379–395) issued laws in AD 391–392 prohibiting sacrifices and other traditional pagan cult practices.
This is the “daily” or continuation that was replaced by a new practice the Bible calls “the abomination”. All other beasts before had been pagan; it had been the ever-existing threat against God’s people. Now they were placed in a new territory. The power that had persecuted them had become one of them, as their religious king. One bad thing had been replaced with an even more terrifying thing.
In Daniel 7, we are told that the Roman beast became different from the others. This is certainly one way it changed. Religiously, as pagans, Rome had largely echoed the Greek and Babylonian religious practices with their own variations. The conversion to Christianity was something entirely new and unexpected.
But what many Christians saw as glory, conquest, peace, and prosperity, or as the world’s conversion, is described differently by God. The Bible is clear throughout history that mingling truth and error for prosperity leads to the corruption of the soul. It always was, and is, a self-deception.
The Roman leadership did more than desecrate their own temples; they also abandoned Rome as the capital. Constantine moved the capital to Constantinople, where most emperors ruled thereafter. Rome itself was eventually handed over to the Roman-appointed Christian leaders: the popes.
This same transaction is brought to view in Revelation 13: 2, where it is said that the dragon, pagan Rome, gave to the beast, papal Rome, his seat, the city of Rome. By both changing his capital, and rejecting his own gods: the place of Rome’s sanctuary “was cast down” (Dan.8:11).
Dan 8:12: And an host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.
Again, the word “sacrifice” is often added here, though it does not appear in the original text. This addition makes it seem as if the verse refers to Jerusalem, but at this point, Jerusalem was a Roman city and God’s people were scattered across many lands. This is not about the temple in Jerusalem.
Here is described the next phase of Rome, not the new capital the Roman emperor had withdrawn to. We are talking about the continuation in Rome. The shift from paganism to Christianity was made possible by a large group of people who helped facilitate the transition. Without “a host,” Rome could not have successfully changed its religion. Usually, a leader would be overthrown if he rejected the people’s adored gods. But Rome had many people helping to change the order. But it was done by giving up and sacrificing truth. Here plays in Paul’s prophecy about these events:
2.Th 2:3-4: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God”.
The church’s decline led believers to seek a papal leader. But great iniquity was then done in the name of Christ. Paul explains that this all happened because people wanted Christ’s sacrifice, but not the conversion or the truth. They wanted the story and the name, not the transformation. They wanted to be saved in their sins, getting the best of both worlds without having to give up their desires:
2Th 2:9-12: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
And although God would want to convert the world to His Son, and not leave them pagans, it’s worse if they stay pagan and put Christ’s name on that. Suppose they try to control the minds and actions of God’s children by impersonating His messenger. Jesus states in Revelation that a church which chooses to be neither one thing nor the other—not fully with Him nor against Him—is rejected: Rev 3:15-16: “I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
It was because of the church’s falling away that they desired what a Papal king could give them. While it was Rome that gave it its governmental power and seat of authority, it was the unfaithfulness, lukewarmness, and sinful church that gave the religious power to this beast. Christian lawlessness crowned the Papal head in the spiritual sense.
One is a greater abomination than the other if they can be measured. Paganism is bad, but what Rome did was blasphemy, for Rome was trying to steal God’s very throne among His people and abolish His kingship over God’s people to institute their own and abuse His name to advance their own agendas. Christ as head of the church, replaced with a human ruler claiming to mediate on God’s behalf. This is what makes Rome the ultimate enemy of God. The impersonator that Christ warned against when he said not to believe it if they say His kingdom has begun here on earth, through a human institution. This is why Christ warned against false “anointed” Christ-like figures. Anointed means to be instituted as High Priest or King. Christ means anointed, because He is the anointed one. A mediator does not need a mediator. “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1Ti 2:5)
So when Christ says false Christs will come, He warns against others taking His position. No one is anointed to that position besides Himself. His glory and praise are not given to an earthly ruler. The Papacy is the thief Jesus warned against, who came to steal (John 10:10). And the Papal kingdom is also warned against in Daniel 2, which explicitly says that God’s coming kingdom was like a rock, not taken by human hands, that would strike the image of the other kingdoms, including the iron kingdom, Rome. It would not be a continuation of Rome or of Babylon. God’s kingdom would not be created through human warfare or conquest, not through political councils, not established by a union. “Not with hands”, and outside of the kings that would rule till Christ returned (Dan.2:34). Paul warned against the coming Papal power. And John, when he saw it, was stunned and amazed. For they were persecuted by Rome, but did not expect Rome to claim to be a continuation of the apostolic line.
But God had foretold it to Daniel.
“And it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.” This was the ultimate result of Rome’s rejection of its own gods and its handing over of the city of seven hills to the papacy. The truth was thrown down, and the deceiver prospered—fulfilling Satan’s plan. This “prospering” is the same prophecy given about the little horn on the Roman beast in Daniel 7: “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High…” and “they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
Both passages speak of success in defeating, subduing, and suppressing God’s true church. But God explains that judgment would come.
Their crimes are described in similar terms in both Daniel 7 and 8, though each emphasizes different aspects. One focuses on the period of special suppression—1260 years. The other covers 2300 years, this time connected to God’s sanctuary. As Daniel 8:13 says: “Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?”
Here we learn that Papal Rome would not only suppress God’s people, but would also trample on God’s sanctuary for an even longer time. Again, the word “daily” is added in translation to make it appear to refer to the same as before. However, looking at the original text shows that God intended a distinction. The Roman sanctuary is called miqdâsh, which in the Bible can mean either God’s temple or a pagan temple—something consecrated. In the following verses, the sanctuary being trampled is called kodesh, meaning “holy.” By using different words, God separates the two: one is “his sanctuary,” and the other is the “holy sanctuary,” which also represents God’s truth. Rome both destroyed its own sanctuary and also harmed God’s sanctuary, and the two are related.
In one verse, it says the truth is cast down to the ground. In the next, the angels ask how long both the host (God’s people) and the sanctuary will be trampled. Here, the focus is not just on the physical suppression of God’s people, as in Daniel 7, but on how long the truth and God’s sanctuary are affected by the suppression of God’s people. Since God rejected the Jewish temple after Christ’s death, this refers to the sanctuary in heaven. Rome cannot desecrate a sanctuary in heaven physically, but by looking back at Daniel 7, we see how it’s done: “and think to change times and laws”—for whom? “the saints of the most High” (Dan. 7:25).
To understand how times and laws are connected to God’s sanctuary, we have to look at what God’s law teaches. First, God’s law is in His sanctuary. Both Hebrews and Revelation show that God’s law is in heaven, and even the Ark of the Covenant is there. In the Old Testament, God’s Ten Commandments were called “the testimony.” In Revelation, John says: “Rev 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened.”
In God’s Most Holy Place is His law. God’s sanctuary is the sanctuary of the law. To enter God’s temple, you need atoning blood—and in the New Covenant and the heavenly sanctuary, that is Christ’s blood.
Pope on throne in the middle of the seven candlesticks. Mimicking Christ in Revelation 1 Christ in Revelation 1: “And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle” Rev 1:13.
So here we see two things they are stepping on: God’s law and Christ’s blood. One is the entry to the sanctuary, which is the blood. The other is the goal, which is the law. To be justified and reconciled with the law broken is to be reconciled with God, who is the law. Then, inside the Holy Place in the sanctuary, were three items: a menorah, a table of showbread, and a golden altar of incense. These three items symbolize Christ’s ministry for His people. The menorah represents His people, whom Papal Rome suppressed. The table of showbread pointed to the priestly ministry of providing the word of God freshly every Sabbath, as the bread was brought in new and replaced on the Sabbath day (Leviticus 24:8). The incense represented the prayers of God’s people, which the papal church also intercepted by instructing Christians to pray for atonement through their institution, their priests, and their saints, whom they claimed were in heaven ministering for them. In this way, the Papal church intercepted the prayers meant for the heavenly temple and redirected them to itself. They also interfered with the weekly bread meant to be given on the Sabbath, encouraging Christians to desecrate that day, which was designed to connect them to the temple in heaven, and to come to their church on Sunday instead, to hear their own explanations of God’s word.
Pope with the incense, playing the High Priest in God’s temple, which in the New Testament is Christ’s role.
The oil in the lamp represented God’s Spirit, but the Papacy sought to act as that Spirit among the people. It judged, shaped consciences, and directed convictions, placing itself as a leader instead of letting the Spirit lead according to God’s law. The Spirit was to take “from God” and “guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself.” “And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment” (John 16:8, 13). In the Most Holy Place of God’s temple was God’s law, which defined sin. The Papacy changed that law and presented a new one, permitting what God forbade and forbidding what God commanded. They called holy what God called unholy, and unholy what He called holy. In this way, they played God in God’s temple. Only God was to rule over His law. By desecrating the law, they placed themselves above God, redirecting people’s obedience to themselves. Finally, they claimed to be the only mediators of Christ’s blood and sacrifice.
Statue of the Pope holding the dove. In the Bible, the Holy Spirit descended as a dove over Christ.
But the prophecy says: times and law—with “times” in the plural. God’s word was renewed on the Sabbath, but there were other sacred times connected to the temple: Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks, and the fall feasts. Three times a year, God’s people were to come before the sanctuary. God called these holy times His assemblies; they were meant to renew and strengthen His people and were essential for loyalty to God. The first feast was even said to be placed on the forehead and hand as a sign of respect for God’s law.
The pope offering “the bread,” symbolizing Christ’s flesh and “the word of God” on his chosen holy day, Sunday. In the sanctuary, the priests placed new bread on the table of showbread on the Biblical Sabbath. As High Priest of a heavenly sanctuary, Christ would renew His word and grace to His people, especially every sabbath.
The feasts were meant to connect God’s people with the sanctuary. They were instructed to come for Passover, the Feast of Weeks, and the Feast of Tabernacles, and to fast in spirit while the High Priest entered the Most Holy Place. The people could not enter the temple themselves, but they could participate in faith from a distance—being present in heart and faith.
The Papacy changed all of God’s appointed times for the church, eliminating the times when God’s people were meant to assemble, with a focus on the sanctuary in heaven for a special connection with God and the work being done there.
By hijacking God’s assemblies, the Papacy created new ones: their own Easter, Christmas, and many other times for gathering—not connected to God’s sanctuary, but to their own earthly counterfeit temple. Instead of assembling in truth with God, Christians began gathering with the church, reinforcing traditional bonds built on error, which made it harder for them to leave.
The confessional ritual has created a new mediating position in competition with Christ’s. Only God can forgive sins done towards His law. The papacy forgives sin after its own law.
The Papal sanctuary was designed to steal God’s people from the true one in heaven. And this is why “ speak great words against the most High” “think to change times and laws”, “wear out the saints of the most High” “ cast down the truth to the ground” “transgression of desolation” “the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot” and “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” are all speaking of the same power and the same offense.
In addition to all these offenses against God and His people, the Papal church mimics the Old Covenant system. They claim to be a new nation under God, an earthly kingship. Yet in the New Covenant, there is no earthly kingdom of Christ. The Popes and priests stand among the candlesticks, as Jesus is described in Revelation 1. They burn incense and present themselves as the givers of the bread. They imitate the symbols of God’s temple in their church practices, even claiming to sacrifice Christ again and again through the eucharist, though He is not truly present in their ceremonies.
The crimes of Rome were so devastating and long-lasting that even a saint, upon hearing this revelation given to Daniel, asks, “How long will this go on?” It was a sigh after witnessing Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and now this power from Rome continuing the oppression that began when Judah lost its independence. How long would the truth be kept under such pressure?
Both Pagan and Papal Rome persecuted Christians. Only one did it in Christ’s name. The Papal Church is responsible for millions of deaths, according to protestant historical records, and is responsible for more Christian deaths than Imperial Rome. The church also eliminated all church competition and finally declared itself the first and only church of Christ.
Dan 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
This echoes the cry of Christian saints who have been suppressed and even killed by the counterfeit temple during the Roman era: “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” (Rev. 6:10)
Victims represented throughout the image of the beasts are calling for justice, and God promises that justice will come. The angel refers to two phases of Rome: “the vision concerning the daily” and “the transgression of desolation.” One refers to Rome’s sins as Pagan Rome, and the other to its sins as Papal Rome. Rome would have to answer for both.
One saint asked another: How long till the suppression of God’s people and God’s sanctuary, and the stepping on the truth, ends?
The behavior of Rome mimics Satan’s consistent attack on God’s people: if he cannot seduce them, he tries to force them, wear them out, or deceive them. Most Christians have chosen to follow the Papal temple instead of God’s true temple.
Today, 99.5% of all Christians follow either papal-instituted times, laws, or prophecies. Most do not believe they need to keep God’s original times or law; instead, they observe church laws and church times. They do not show up for God’s assembly connected to the heavenly temple. That is a staggering loss for God. But if God had not intervened, that number would have reached 100%. In Daniel 7 it says: “But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. (Dan 7:26)
All these millions of members of these churches have yet to return to God’s times and law, His sanctuary, and continue to follow the lead of Papal Rome consciously or unconsciously. With their mind or their hand. They worship Christ outside of His heavenly sanctuary; they don’t fellowship with heaven at Christ’s appointed times and in accordance with His law. They do not show up for Christ on the sabbath to receive His blessing and instruction. These and others who have not reformed make over 99% of all Christians in the world today.
The saint answers the other saint:
“Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
This likely has a dual meaning. The sanctuary was cleansed on the Day of Atonement, which was a judgment day. On that day, as the High Priest entered the Most Holy Place where God’s throne and law rested, it was determined who had truly respected God’s order and repented authentically. It involved a separation of God’s people—the repentant on one side, and those who were still in rebellion against God’s law on the other. It prophesies a time when a remnant will turn back to God’s temple, Gods times, and laws, escaping the order of the papal temple. And a time for God to judge those who refuse to.
The prophecy shows that there will come a time when God’s temple in heaven will once again become the focus, and God’s people will assemble before it, respect its law, receive spiritual food on the Sabbath, receive the Spirit, and offer their prayers directly to the heavenly temple. By rejecting the false sanctuary on earth, the true sanctuary of God and His truth are restored in His people, leading to freedom from the oppression brought by the lies and abominations of Rome. Although not all will be freed, a way is prepared for those who wish to be. This remnant is described in Revelation, and they must also face a final attack from Satan especially directed at them: “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” (Rev. 12:17)
Why Did God Wait So Long?
The question “how long?” expresses a feeling many share. If Rome’s crimes are so great, why did God allow them to continue for so long? Why did the Papacy sit with so much power for 1260 years, and still remain, with its alliances and influence, the largest of all churches today?
Why is she not punished for her crimes sooner?
It is all tied to God’s grace. He knows that many who have followed this counterfeit sanctuary on earth have done so unknowingly, thinking they were doing His will. The reason God did not destroy the Papacy sooner is its overwhelming ability to deceive. It holds the finest sermons, defends Christians, helps the poor, and upholds the name of Christ. At times, it has been almost impossible to distinguish truth from error, while at other times it is easier to see. Today, the Catholic Church is not military; it does not send out crusaders or make inquisitions, nor does it have kings and queens fighting for its cause and eliminating its enemies. It appears pious and good. Only Christians who love the truth and worship God in “spirit and truth” will see its crimes in the right light. Only by coming close to God and His temple can you discern the difference. Only when you see what God has truly prepared and is doing for His people will you realize that the Papacy. However, it eagerly quotes the Bible, is leading people away from the temple in heaven, and is in rebellion to the New Jerusalem.
By creating its own assemblies, times, and laws, it gives a “feeling” of truth. This is what makes it so deceptive, and also why God, in His love for humanity and for those truly seeking Him, has waited to bring judgment.
Abraham asked Jesus if He would spare Sodom if there were 50, 45, 40, 30, 20, or even 10 righteous people in the city, and Jesus promised He would. But when there were not even 10 righteous, God sent angels into the city to save and bring out the one righteous man and his family.
This is the situation in the end times. God will eventually judge this power for its great sins, for bringing confusion and souls lost, for its crimes. For a long time, God tried to reform and speak to people who were deceived by this power, so they would choose to follow him instead.
For the longest time, God is working hard to save them. But then a time comes when He cannot any longer. At that time, he calls out His people to separate from them, just like He separated Lot from Sodom before its destruction.
We can read about it in Revelation 18, citing the sins of the false churches and how the enlightenment of God’s true sanctuary, compared to the sins of the counterfeit sanctuaries on earth, will forever divide them into two groups. Those who understand their senses have been deceived, that they have been seduced to believe lies. That they have believed Satan when he quoted the bible and followed his lead, unlike Christ in the wilderness. Only by looking at the real sanctuary will the false sanctuary be exposed.
Rev 18:1-5: “And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. … And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.“
The time has come. Now God expects you to embrace the enlightenment available through His word and through your unique access to history, as no generation before has had. Choose Him: His temple, His law, His assembly, and His atonement mediated through Christ. Leave behind the imitation, for it is about to be judged and its followers afflicted. Those who follow have empowered the beast by loving traditions and human spiritual leaders more than Christ.
God says, as He told Lot, to flee—to come out of this system and religion before judgment falls. If you are found within its walls, you will be destroyed with your deceivers. And if you flee but look back, you will become like Lot’s wife—a pillar of salt. Do not long for what is false or leave your heart behind, for it could cause you to turn back, and you will be lost as well.
The angels said to Lot: “Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed” (Gen.19:17)
Don’t look back. If you hesitate or speculate, you may never leave. Sitting on the fence and waiting to “see what happens” will not save you in the end times. Paul said that lies are overwhelmingly tied to desire, and anyone who lingers on temptation is more likely to give in. That’s why, when leaving false churches, we must not look back but run. If you have been deeply deceived, you are more easily deceived again. Those who have been misled can only be free if they run and never look back. Do not go back for anyone. Run for the hills. God’s spiritual kingdom is compared to a mountain, and that is where we must flee.
When Jesus compares the story of Lot’s escape from Sodom with the end times, it’s important to see what Christ says right before he mentions it. They ask Jesus when His kingdom is coming, and Jesus replies that any kingdom claimed to be His before His second coming is not of Him. And he says: “And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them”. He then compares it to Noah’s times, but also to Lot’s.
Making it a fit comparison to leaving “Babylon” and “the sins of Babylon” before its destruction.
“Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” (Rev.18:4)
What are her sins? She makes herself a queen and ruler (Rev. 18:7), fornicates with earthly governments to become wealthy and enforce her own laws (Rev. 18:9), and seeks her own interests above those of God and His people (Rev. 18:7). She has glorified herself, appearing holy, and while living in luxury, God’s people are denied the right to buy or sell (Rev. 13). She says in her heart, “I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow,” even as she is drunken with the blood of the saints and martyrs of Jesus. She holds a golden cup full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication, deceiving the whole world with her counterfeit sanctuary and her claim to a holy priesthood. “For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,” causing many to follow her laws instead of God’s. 99.5% of the Christian world follows this beast, and only 0.5% has refused. Yet God has given humanity one last chance to join the remnant. These figures are based on the number of Christian denominations that place papal “times and laws” above God’s, compared with churches that claim to respect God’s original law. These are real numbers and a real reality.
Just as Sodom would have been spared with ten righteous in it, so have many gatherings escaped judgment because of the righteous in them. And so for 1260 years even Papal Rome escaped destruction because of the ignorant among them. But when the Bible was accessible to all, God expected more.
In the case of Lot, the Lord said to Him: “Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar” (Gen 19:22) But in the end times, He cannot make this promise any longer. If God’s people stay in Babylon or do her sins, they will perish at the time of Judgment. He will not wait for them to turn; He has already waited for as long as He possibly can. He will not pull us out like He did Lot; instead, He pleads with us to leave ourselves. Jesus said without addressing it further in connection to the end times: “Remember Lot’s wife” (Luk.17:32). Three words with deep meaning.Don’t stay on the fence, don’t stand in the middle, for you will be stuck and then consumed forever. There is no middle way, no compromise, no a little of this and a little of that. It’s leave or be judged. There is no realm in between at the very end. When Judgment comes, no one can claim they did good by not choosing sides, by being neutral. Only those connected to the heavenly sanctuary and Christ as their High Priest will be saved.
Go out of her, my people. That is not just about the Papal church, but all Christian churches that follow her lead, her changed times and laws. That is a call to at least 99.5% of all Christians, if not more. To anyone who partakes in throwing the truth to the ground, stepping on Christ’s sanctuary in heaven. For being part of the confusion and encouraging others to remain in false religious settings where they will be lost.
Claiming that the power in Daniel 8 is Antiochus IV Epiphanes hides the sins of the churches and provides an excuse to ignore God’s warning and not act on it. It points the finger at a ruler who held little power in a collapsing empire, allowing the real culprit to go free. The desecration of God’s tabernacle in heaven and the suppression over such a long time of God’s people has had a devestating impact on billions of people before and now, numbers that cant be counted. They are the author of confusion and division in all churches. Therefore, she is said to be “THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev.17:5)
The call to leave her also means leaving these “daughters” who commit the same sins as her mother.
The Bible is the most widely read book in the world, and as a result, it is also the most misunderstood. While the Old Testament, the gospels, and the letters of the apostles are generally straightforward, it is Paul’s letters that remain at the center of Christian confusion.
This confusion is so significant that one Bible author actually predicted it: another biblical writer warned that Paul’s letters could be misunderstood—not just in an innocent way, but in a manner that could lead people to perdition. In other words, misunderstanding Paul is not simply a minor disagreement; it can have consequences for one’s salvation. Peter, Christ’s apostle, praises Paul and calls him beloved, recognizing him as a fellow worker for the gospel. However, Peter also warns against reading Paul’s letters without proper understanding or knowledge (2 Peter 3:15-16).
Rather than blaming Paul, Peter holds his readers responsible for willfully or ignorantly twisting Paul’s words.
If the law and the prophets were the foundation Christ used to explain and guide His purpose and work, Paul’s words would not be misunderstood. Christ called this the “rock” on which the gospel stands. When this foundation was removed, Christian churches descended into confusion, division, and even suppression. Perhaps the calling of Paul shows why Christ originally chose ordinary men—fishermen, tax collectors, and others—rather than the learned scribes and Pharisees to lay the foundation of the church. Education can sometimes lead people to speak in ways that are not easily understood by everyone, making simple topics seem complicated. Paul was highly educated, having studied under the leader of the Sanhedrin (Acts 26:5, Acts 22:3). He was a Pharisee. His letters are the hardest to understand because he was not a fisherman or a tax collector, but a scholar who communicated using the educated standards of his time, even employing argumentative methods.
Some say he used the Socratic method, which was common among learned men of his day.
The Socratic method, named after the classical Greek philosopher Socrates, is a form of inquiry and debate between individuals with opposing viewpoints. It involves asking and answering questions to encourage critical thinking and clarify ideas. Often, this method uses oppositional discussion to lead someone to see contradictions in their own arguments, thereby highlighting the main point.
Now imagine someone in a later time and culture reading something that was already hard to understand in the first century. It’s almost certain there will be confusion about the intent and meaning. While the Holy Spirit inspired Paul as he wrote, it’s important to remember that the Spirit works through people as they are, using their language and personality. God uses imperfect humans as his messengers, allowing each person’s unique experience and voice to reach different groups of people.
To the Corinthians, Paul wrote: “And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews” (1 Corinthians 9:20). This may seem strange since Paul was already a practicing Jew, so why would he say he became as a Jew? Paul means that he adapted his words and actions depending on his audience. Not to deceive, but because everyone must consider who they are speaking to when making their case. Paul’s letters to the churches are often raw and passionate, sometimes resembling an argumentative train of thought, while the book of Hebrews is more like a formal sermon. It’s said that Hebrews contains about 150 words not found elsewhere in the New Testament. The author of Hebrews exclusively quotes from the Septuagint (the Greek Old Testament), likely addressing diaspora Jews who used that version. The key point is that Paul adapts his message to his audience. Failing to consider the times, the people, and the conflicts of the first-century church can make Paul especially difficult to understand. If we ever feel compelled to set aside Christ’s direct words because of something in Paul’s letters, it’s a sign we need to reconsider our interpretation.
Even modern Christian writers are influenced by their education in how they express themselves and whom they address. Someone with a university degree speaks one way to a colleague but would use different language when talking to someone less experienced. Similarly, a mathematician who wants to be understood by a non-mathematician must find simpler ways to explain his points.
This is as it should be, because if we don’t speak in a way that is understood by people in our own time and culture, our message may not be heard or accepted.
We see Paul using traditional argumentative methods throughout his letters. For example, in Romans he appears to suggest that God’s law is the problem, or that trying to obey it leads to failure—only to conclude suddenly:
“Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good” (Rom 7:12)
This raises the question: If the law is just and good, why does Paul say it made him a sinner? Why does he sometimes present the law as if it contrasts with or even competes against faith? Paul often describes the struggle or the problem in one chapter, then explains the right approach or solution in the next. Many modern readers make the mistake of treating every verse as a direct command or absolute truth. Some even teach that trying to obey God displeases Him, which makes no sense. This confusion leads to endless debates about what Paul truly means.
In the same chapter, Paul writes: “But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter” (Rom 7:6). This leads many to think Paul is saying the law is the problem, and that it is now abolished. Yet just a few verses later, he calls the law holy and still in force, meaning its requirements remain in effect. So what does Paul truly mean? The best way to avoid misunderstanding him is to look not only at his arguments, but also at his conclusions.
We see Paul’s argumentative style even more clearly in other passages, such as when he first says:
“But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven” (1Co 11:5)
Only to proceed and say:
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering” (1Co 11:15).
Here, Paul presents both sides of the argument before reaching his conclusion, but later readers are often left confused about his actual meaning. Does a woman need to wear a covering, or is her hair sufficient as a covering? As a result, some Christians wear head coverings while others do not. Treating every statement Paul makes as a command can lead to confusion.
This is similar to quoting from the book of Job, which is also part of holy scripture. In the end, God criticizes three of the speakers in Job: “ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath” (Job 42:7). This means we cannot treat everything in Job as definitive truth, even if God’s name is mentioned. The book’s conclusion reveals the truth. While the Bible is holy, the words of Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar are not necessarily so. These men show how God’s truth can be mingled with human error. God does not want us to adopt their religious practices or quote them as law without careful examination. The same caution applies to Paul, who often argues both sides of an issue before giving his conclusion. If we are not careful, we might follow the beliefs of those he is arguing against, rather than Paul’s intended message. Sometimes, as in Romans, Paul clearly presents an opposing idea and then rejects it with “God forbid!”—showing the idea is someone else’s misunderstanding, not his own teaching.
Paul often uses a Hellenistic debating style, adopting the voice of a critic, posing questions on their behalf, and then refuting those points.
First-century writers also used persuasive techniques to win over skeptical audiences, often by establishing common ground before making a controversial claim. These methods evolved into specific structures and logical devices that remain foundational to persuasive writing and legal arguments today.
The Romans used dispositio—the sequential arrangement of a speech or essay. This blueprint required the speaker to present multiple layers of argument before concluding. It consisted of three main parts: confirmatio (presenting key arguments and evidence), refutatio (systematically dismantling counterarguments), and peroratio (stating the conclusion and emotional appeal).
The point is that Paul’s writing is uniquely different from all other books in the Bible, which is why he is misunderstood more than any other author. While the rest of the Bible uses structured narratives, formal poetry, and straightforward sermons, Paul writes with a raw urgency. In addition, his grammar often breaks mid-sentence as he pursues new theological ideas.
Some Bible readers who do not understand this may feel compelled to accept both the arguments Paul presents and his answers as equally God-given truth, leading to spiritual ambiguity. This confusion has contributed to the falling away seen in the churches. Satan does not need us to be ignorant of God’s word—just confused about it. In the Garden of Eden, Satan did not question God’s existence; he misquoted God and twisted His intentions to create confusion, then suggested disobedience as the solution. He used a similar strategy with Jesus in the wilderness, quoting Scripture but twisting its meaning to create uncertainty and tempt Jesus to break God’s law. But Jesus recognized the strategy and exposed it.
If we use God’s law as our foundation, we know that Paul cannot make new laws that define sin. God’s law forbids adding to or removing from His commandments. Only a law created by God, if broken, defines sin—“Sin is the breaking of the law” (1 John 3:4). The sin Christ redeemed us from was transgression against God’s law, not human laws. He redeemed us from our violations of God’s law so we could be restored to good standing with God. This is the core message that has been confused. Instead of removing His law, God took the penalty on Himself, upholding the law while saving the sinner. Yet, some teachers today use Paul’s letters to claim that Jesus died to remove the law that condemned us, creating a false gospel—that instead of carrying our sins to the cross, He carried God’s law, and that instead of being freed from sin, we are now freed from God’s law.
A serious problem arises when a Christian is willing to abandon the foundation laid by all other Bible writers to follow a new foundation based on something Paul might or might not have meant.
This idea also contradicts the message of the other Bible writers, who make it clear that only God can make or abolish religious laws and that God’s law remains unchanged. No human is given the right to create laws regarding worship or obedience to God, or to abolish God’s commandments. Even Christ said He would not do so. So whatever Paul is saying, it cannot be that. If Paul really claimed God’s law is no longer valid for Christians, then he would be the kind of preacher the Bible warns against: “For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts” (Mal 2:7)
And from Christ’s own warning: “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven” (Mat 5:18-19)
The apparent contradiction between the themes of the rest of the Bible and gospels on one side, and Paul on the other, is sometimes so striking that some claim only Paul’s words count—even above Christ’s own words. Others argue that Christ’s teachings were only for Jews, while Paul’s are for Christians. Others deal with the controversy by claiming that Paul’s letters do not belong in Scripture. Both should be considered wrong. For as Peter said, Paul would be misunderstood; he also said his letters contained the gospel, written “according to the wisdom given unto him” (2 Pet. 3:15). Peter also says people tend to twist other scriptures, too.
So the question we should ask is: what is being misunderstood, and why can misunderstanding both Paul and the rest of Scripture lead to “their own destruction”? (2 Peter 3:16) The truth is that many who call themselves Christians will be lost. Even Jesus said that people who do many things in His name and proclaim His name will perish on judgment day if they have lived a Christian life without God’s law (Matt. 7:21-23). If Paul never claimed that God’s law is abolished, what is it that he is trying to say that sounds like it is? For this is the core of the change in the Christian platform, which made way for Papal Rome.
Without wrestling with Paul’s writing, you don’t have a papal church, a new religious culture, holy days, or even a new Sabbath. Christianity as we know it today will fall apart, for it is built upon the understanding that Paul tells us God’s law is no longer binding for the church. It is largely built on the idea that God has rejected His own law and allowed men to set church laws in their place. And this drives evangelicals, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and other Christian denominations like Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses. They cannot argue for their change of biblical culture to a new one without quoting Paul. They can not quote any other Bible writer to support their belief. His letters are their only defense for violating and changing God’s law. The idea that God’s law has been replaced is what allows for many church traditions. To defend this belief, the only scriptural support comes from Paul’s writings. But if Paul is misunderstood on this point, and the original foundation still stands, then the majority of the Christian world is standing on a crumbling platform—a house built on sand that cannot endure the storm of God’s coming judgment. God says that many of His own people are in Babylonian confusion, but He also warns that He cannot save them unless they “come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” (Rev. 18:4).
THE THREE CONFLICTS
When looking at all of Paul’s letters, three conflicts from his time still exist today. Paul addresses each of these, but over time, they have been blended to create the idea that God’s law is no longer binding.
1. Not if, but how. Why do so many apparently law-abiding Jews hate the law in flesh, Jesus? Why did Jesus call them lawbreakers when they had God’s law with them? What is the difference between legalistic religious practice and a spiritual approach to the law?
2. The Gentiles: Should they be circumcised and fully convert to Judaism with all its rituals before coming to Christ to be part of God’s congregation and Israel?
3. Does Jewish worship change? Should Jews continue sacrificing and performing temple rites after Christ has offered Himself and established a new temple? Do the shadow system and the fulfillment continue together, or can both save you?
All three topics are fairly clear if you have the right foundation for understanding the debate—one built on the law and the prophets. But if you mix these conflicts into a new truth and practice, you end up repeating the very mistakes Paul warned against, even creating a new religion and platform. This is exactly what both Catholics, Protestants, and evangelicals have done.
1. Not if, but how.
Does God expect you to keep the law? Is it even possible, or is Paul arguing about how it should be done? In this case, the law and the prophets, as well as Jesus and His apostles, all affirmed the need to respect God’s law. In fact, that is what everything is about.
Would God require obedience throughout the Bible if it were impossible for people to obey? God is not unreasonable; He is fair. Understanding this helps us see that Paul is taking the discussion to a higher level: How can we keep the law when our bodies struggle against our minds? When our desires overpower our will, is there a solution? Is God condemning us through the law for something we cannot do, or has He made a way for us to come into harmony with His principles?
Much of Paul’s argument is rooted in its context. He not only discusses how to keep the law, but also addresses religious hypocrisy and its dangers. He speaks about the failure that comes from seeking the law legalistically rather than spiritually—a topic Jesus addressed as well. Jesus claimed that the legalistic Pharisees were lawbreakers because they missed the law’s true purpose. While claiming to be righteous, they were planning His murder, not seeing their own double standard. They also added many human rules and regulations to God’s law, twisting His intent and making it seem like people were sinners for simply breaking their own traditions. Their strict interpretation of the Sabbath led them to see Jesus as a Sabbath breaker. They imagined themselves righteous, yet were not in harmony with the law at all. Jesus taught that righteousness is not just about avoiding outward sins, but about true inner change. For example, He said: “whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart” (Matt. 5:28). Jesus, who perfectly fulfilled God’s law, was the living example of what it looks like when the law is truly practiced—and they hated Him even as they claimed to love the law.
This remains a problem for many Christians today, making this topic very relevant. Do we seek God through rituals, church attendance, and good deeds, while ignoring the principles of the law? Many Christians do good deeds to excuse the wrong they do elsewhere. Paul and Jesus both argued that a true Jew is one inwardly (Rom. 2:29). True Christianity must come from the heart. Rituals cannot replace or conceal the heart’s true condition or intent.
Jesus said: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone” (Mat 23:23). Their balance was off. This conflict appears throughout the Bible, addressed in many books—especially Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel—but usually without Paul’s complex argumentative style. In those prophetic books, the issue was urgent because the double standard was so widespread. This was at the heart of Christ’s teachings. He had to teach true religion in the midst of religious superstition, which put Him in conflict with the leaders and teachers of His own people. When Jesus taught the same principles Paul later emphasized, He could not be removed from the platform of the law. Jesus claimed to keep the law, encouraged others to keep it, and was the law made manifest. He was not contradicting Himself. We must recognize that Christ was not promoting spiritual lawlessness, but warning against practicing the law without understanding its spirit and purpose. Jesus was not saying the problem was with God or His law, but with how they were being practiced. Jesus said:
“The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not” (Mat 23:2-3).
The fight of who actually respected God’s law continued between the apostles and the Jewish leaders even after Jesus had ascended to heaven.
They: “set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the law” (Acts 6:13)
While the apostles said about them: “Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it” (Acts 7:53) They argued who actually respected the law of the two. Paul, having been among the leadership in Judah, taught all the rules of Phariseeism, was very well aware of the dangers of approaching God’s law the wrong way. He was an example of it. He persecuted his own people, thinking he was doing God’s service.
It’s always easier to instruct others than to examine and change yourself. Likewise, performing a ritual is simpler than truly changing your heart or habits.
Christ’s conversation with Nicodemus puts the conflict on display as Jesus says to him after telling him the importance of spiritual rebirth to be right with God: “Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?” (Joh.3:10) If we don’t believe the heart can change and be “reborn,” then we will lose faith not only in ourselves but also in others. Preventing us from showing mercy and forgiving, and at the same time not admitting wrong. Jesus questioned Nicodemus, being a teacher and a leader, yet was unable to understand how a transformation could take place. This exposed the religious climate in which Nicodemus lived. They condemned the sinners, but could not offer them rehabilitation and mercy. Rather than actually being righteous, they imagined themselves righteous. Jesus agreed their show worked; they appeared good to most: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.” (Mat 23:27 -28)
He confronted them with washing their outside, which made them appear clean, but spiritual uncleanness came from the heart: “Whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.” (Mar 7:18-20)
If we keep the platform God established—that His law is holy—then we can understand Paul’s message in line with Jesus’. Paul, like Jesus, warns that hypocrisy and legalism are both dangerous and destructive.
But if the right platform is removed, Paul appears to permit “giving up,” or to suggest that God has changed his expectations and requirements. That God has repented of His law and has been born again, rather than us repenting for breaking it and being born again. Although it is not said that way, this is what it means when Christians hold on to such an interpretation. If Paul is misunderstood, then those who keep the law will appear to be the ones God is in conflict with, whilst those who do not are credited as good Christians. And if that were the case, it would conflict with everything God has ever said and done, both before Paul and after, to John. For God has always said those who kept His word were His Own, and those who violated His law were the ones in conflict and the ones who were causing all the problems both within his congregation as well as outside it. Never in the history of the Bible were those who kept God’s law faithfully said to be the problem.
Paul’s intent is seen in the conclusions he makes, trying to prevent the church from going in the footsteps of his own people, even himself, when it came to religious hypocrisy. He was not abolishing God’s law.
A Christian should be born again with a cleansed heart, not create new systems or religious practices that merely disguise a rebellious heart with rituals.
Because Paul is misunderstood on these matters, Christians have often followed the same legalistic path as the Jews. Instead of temple rituals and cleansing laws, they have created their own church rituals. Now, a Christian might seek salvation by attending Mass, going on pilgrimages, confessing to a priest, honoring church-appointed holy times, and performing rituals like giving alms, reciting prayers, or burning incense and candles. Yet none of these practices reveal the true condition of the heart. One can do all of these things and still have a greedy, lustful, boastful, or unmerciful heart.
The conflict remains.
God Himself instituted the temple ritual laws for their time, but the rituals alone did not save; it was the attitude and understanding with which they were practiced that mattered. In Christ’s time, the Jews misunderstood the purpose of these rituals. Later, Christian churches added practices that God never instituted, making it even more difficult to separate truth from error.
You can recite the Lord’s Prayer a hundred times a day without its words being true in your life. People often prefer rituals to genuine conversion because it feels easier to earn salvation through acts—simple or complex—than actually to change. This is why the Bible spends so much time explaining how God’s law should—and should not—be approached. Most religious teachers have their students receive God’s law through fear of punishment. This approach leads to rebellion, opposition, suppression, and hypocrisy. Paul understood all this. The moral law cannot be kept through ritual alone. It must be approached with faith, trust in God, and love that comes from God’s love for us. It is meant to be naturally in our hearts, but because of sin and its effect on our character, we are too weak to keep its principles on our own.
This is where God’s Spirit enters—to make up for our weakness, to renew our hearts, and to give us the desire and strength to follow Christ’s example. When a person realizes God loves them, they open their heart, and through trust and admiration for God, a faithful heart is born. We conquer sin through the Spirit and our faith, not through a legalistic approach.
This was Paul’s point: “But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone (Rom 9:31-32)
For example, reciting the Lord’s Prayer as a ritual has no meaning if it is not done with faith. But one heartfelt Lord’s Prayer, spoken with faith and love, unites the words with the heart and transforms the person praying. God-given Christian rituals like baptism and the Lord’s Supper can be practiced without true conversion. The same was true in Christ’s time with the jews and the first converts, which Paul addressed. Attending church every week will not guarantee salvation. Even though these actions do not save us, God still wants us to be baptized, take the Lord’s Supper, and go to church. The problem is not with baptism itself, but with how we approach it and whether it leads to real change. The same principle applies to God’s law—the law was never the problem; the issue was always how people approached it.
Paul was a learned man, both in the world of his time and in Jewish doctrine. The teacher considered most conservative in his day is now seen as one of the most liberal among the Bible writers. Paul admitted he was once very strict: “Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee” (Acts 26:5).
Our practice of the law is evident in our interactions with each other, and the moral law is not upheld through a ritual. Not even the Sabbath. The two who refused to help in the story of the merciful Samaritan were teachers of the law, but they did not actually keep it or understand it.
This pattern is seen throughout history: people who are deeply committed to one side often focus on their own past mistakes and swing to the opposite extreme, hoping to help others avoid the same errors. This was true for Martin Luther, the great reformer. He mistreated himself in an effort to earn God’s favor, even as the average Catholic gave little thought to such matters. Luther’s intense efforts and focus on God’s vengeance led to a major change when he finally understood God’s mercy and the gift of salvation. This new understanding became his passion and set him on the right path. However, those who never experienced his struggle sometimes misused his teachings as an excuse not to make any effort at all—an abuse of Luther’s meaning.
Paul had been a strict Pharisee, so zealous that he was blinded to who God really was. After his conversion, he used the same passion to help others avoid his past mistakes. He wanted people to understand that true change comes through God’s love and mercy—not through religious fanaticism or bigotry.
Paul’s zeal and passion are an important influence in the Bible when rightly understood. His writings encourage sinners to form a genuine bond with God and avoid the hardening of their hearts. Paul’s message stands against religious fanaticism, which can lead people to become, as he once was, a self-righteous man persecuting Christians, thinking he was serving God. He believed he was right because he performed religious rituals. Yet, he misunderstood and failed to live out their true meaning—only to realize later that he had completely misunderstood and dishonored God.
The Levites carried the Ark of the Covenant and all the sanctuary items through the wilderness for forty years. They carried God’s name and law from place to place, yet it never entered their hearts. It is possible to outwardly profess faith and doctrinal beliefs while being at odds with them inwardly. This disconnect is what confuses believers.
Such has been the case with both Jews and Christians throughout history. In Christ’s time, those who thought themselves God’s chosen people killed their own Messiah—and not just Him, but also the prophets God sent. This is the ultimate confusion. That’s why swearing by doctrines does not make someone a follower of Christ, nor does performing rituals make you a good person. Repeating God’s name over and over does not change the darkness in your heart. Paul’s passion was to explain how God’s culture and Christ’s righteousness must become part of the heart, and he explained it as best he could. In Revelation, when describing the final conflict that brings about Christ’s second coming, God’s people are described as “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” (Rev.14:12)
Not just faith in Jesus—though that is important—but the faith of Jesus. This means keeping God’s law through the same spirit and faith that Christ had when He obeyed. That is the only way to respect God’s law truly.
Paul passionately debates these issues, though often in a less straightforward manner than other biblical writers.
2. The gentile-Jewish conflict.
The second major topic appears especially in letters written to communities made up of both Gentile converts and Jewish believers. The first-century church faced challenges never experienced before.
Before this, Gentiles who converted became Jews: they were circumcised and practiced Judaism according to both the Torah and traditional laws. From the first century onward, converts also had to accept the teachings of Jewish rabbis and oral law to be considered true converts. When they did, they became part of Jewish worship and religious life, often moving to live among the Jews. An example is Nicolas, a proselyte of Antioch, who was elected as a leader of the first Jewish-Christian assembly in Jerusalem, causing no conflict or distrust among the other Jews there because he was fully converted to Judaism and circumcised (Acts 6:5).
But following the spread of the gospel, it became different for three reasons:
1. The Jews did not want Christ-followers to convert to Judaism, nor did they want them among them.
2. The change of covenants now meant that believers were to follow Christ instead of the earthly temple and its services.
3. The converts remained living among their fellow Gentiles, scattered throughout many lands.
This made the conversion of Gentiles complicated and unique for its time, leading to great confusion. The Jews who rejected Christ refused to accept Gentile converts. Even Jews who had become Christians were wary and fearful of worshiping with converted Gentiles, seeing them as “unclean,” and some even as an abomination. Even the Jewish apostles and followers of Jesus were rejected by their own people; they could not bring Gentile converts to the synagogue or temple without causing great conflict among the Jews. When Paul attempted this, it led to repeated disputes, as seen throughout the book of Acts. Although the apostles desired that Gentile converts be considered part of Israel, in practice Jewish believers continued to attend the synagogue, while Gentile converts often remained separate.
The Jews would only accept converts who embraced all Jewish rituals and were not converted because of Christ. Foremost among these rituals was circumcision, which Paul mentions 28 times in his letters.
Knowing that Gentile converts would not be accepted by the wider Jewish community, the apostles needed to find a way for them to embrace both the law and the gospel, even as they were excluded.
It was this very conflict that led to many of Paul’s statements about the law being misunderstood or misused—even at the first apostolic council in Jerusalem.
Some Jews insisted that pagans who followed Jesus were not allowed to keep the Sabbath—claiming it belonged only to the Jews—or to keep the feasts or even study the law and the prophets, unless they were circumcised. Many Jews who followed Jesus were also confused, considering Gentile believers unclean even after conversion. This led to a schism between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians, which Paul argued was never God’s intention. They were meant to be one people, together forming God’s Israel.
By allowing and teaching separation, some were reverting to the old covenant system—something Paul argued against.
The Old Covenant system demanded separation because Israel was chosen to be the royal priesthood at Mount Sinai.
It’s a common misconception that God’s law was created at Sinai. In reality, it was Israel’s election as the representative of God’s law that was ratified as a covenant—not the law’s origin. God expected them to keep His law even before Sinai, showing that it was already in effect. It was their selection as a people—set apart to represent God’s law—that was ratified at Sinai. We see this in God’s word, where He says: “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.” (Exodus 19:5–6) It was an agreement upon their relationship that was ratified. But God’s law existed long before.
Paul explained that even with the ritual, you dont have salvation. The ritual were to be a symbol of a covenant with God. That symbol was broken when Christ was rejected. Neither did the symbol have any meaning detached from the circumcision of the heart. Claiming someone was not “clean” or part of Israel because of the physical circumcision was a disrespect to Christ’s cross. Everything the Jews refused to let pagans take part in, in reality, belonged to Christ and His followers.
This separation between Jew and Gentile was to be removed in the new covenant, as the focus shifted from genetics and the Sinai agreement to following Christ’s lead. Because Christ took over the priestly titles and temple service, the old temple system was no longer in effect. God did not abolish the system; He transferred it to Himself and a temple in heaven. The Jews would not accept this and insisted they were still God’s priests and that their temple was the only valid one. Even Christian Jews were confused about how to continue their traditions and the law in this new context. In the midst of this conflict were the Gentile converts. They were told either that they were unclean and unwelcome to participate in God’s culture, or that they had to be circumcised and perform cleansing rituals—essentially becoming full ritualistic Jews—to worship with other Jews. As a result, some Gentiles did just that, replacing the new covenant with the old covenant system. By turning to ritual Judaism for salvation, as Paul argued, they made Christ’s sacrifice of no effect. After all, if Christ’s sacrifice was not enough for God’s pardon, and one had to rely on the ritual system, what was the point of Christ’s sacrifice in the first place? If Christ’s blood could not cleanse, and only circumcision could, then what power did the cross really have? Wasn’t Christ’s sacrifice superior for cleansing? Insisting on circumcision for cleansing and worthiness was actually an act of unbelief in the power of the cross to justify. In this way, the circumcision God instituted as a symbol of faith became a symbol of unbelief, losing its purpose. Paul debated these things consistently. The conflict might be easier to understand with a modern example: if Christ were to come and baptize with the Holy Spirit and declare us clean, but other Christians insisted that only water baptism could save, then clearly one baptism is superior to the other—though God instituted both. One can be baptized by water and still be unconverted; the act itself does not make you clean. It is faith, connected to the act, that brings you into covenant with God. Baptism is not a magic ritual that makes you sinless, and anything Christ does—like baptizing with the Spirit or declaring you clean—is superior to the ritual. This was the conflict over circumcision among the first Christians. It arose as resistance to what God provided, turning a symbolic act into a rival to true purification. Paul was considered radical when he said to the Philippians: “Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh” (Php 3:2-3). Not only did he claim they were cleansed through a superior means, but he took the Jewish symbol and applied it to the Gentiles, asserting that they were justified—even to a greater extent than circumcised Jews who did not have Christ.
Paul also argued against the idea that one must serve both the rituals of the earthly tabernacle and accept Christ’s new temple—offering both animal sacrifices and Christ’s sacrifice. Paul often exposed the illogical and destructive mindset of those who clung to the symbols for salvation out of fear and disbelief, rather than simply believing in the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice. Paul was trying to explain the same truth as Christ had: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil” (Mat 5:17).
When Christ said: “Think not,” it was because he knew many would not just think that, but accuse Him of doing that. Christ was not instead of the law; He was the law; He was the fulfillment of all the ritual laws. They all pointed to Him. In contrast, those who refused Him saw Him as someone who was destroying their customs, as they preferred to worship the symbols rather than what they symbolized. They accused Jesus of trying to destroy the temple, yet the temple was just a story written in imagery of His mission. The ritual law was not the problem; it was God-given. It was how they interpreted what God had given that became their stumbling block. It’s the same with pagan religions. God has gifted the earth the sun. But they worshiped the sun over its creator, crediting the sun with being the creator and lawmaker. God does not blame the sun’s existence; He blames those who worship it as a god.
Circumcision and the Sabbaths Paul also argued that the Sabbaths and new moon days now belong to Christ. They prophesied of Him, and anyone condemning Gentile believers for partaking in the Lord’s feasts—deeming them unclean—was mistaken. To the Colossians, Paul explained that they were clean, circumcised in Christ by a superior circumcision, and that anything separating them from God’s congregation was nailed to the cross. Gentile believers were as clean as any Jew—cleaner, even, than a Jew who had not accepted Christ. There was no reason for them to be denied participation in God’s culture and law, whether because of their genetics or lack of circumcision. Paul explains:
“In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross…. (Col 2:11-14)
So arguing that they are fit through this Christ circumcision of the heart, he says:
“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Col 2:16-17
Meaning, they were not to be excluded from the Lord’s assembly for being “unclean”. Those judgments were wrong, and they were not to let anyone judge them for being unclean or unfit, or for being wrong to dine at Christ’s table and feasts.
Today, however, Paul is often misunderstood as saying the opposite of what he meant, largely because people fail to grasp the first-century Jewish-Christian conflict. Some preachers claim these passages mean that, because of the cross, Christians are no longer obligated to follow God’s moral law or observe His appointed times. They teach that no one should judge them for breaking these commands, yet harshly judge Christians who do keep them. They also claim that these things belong only to Jews who rejected Christ, separating Christ’s own Sabbath and feasts from Him and giving them to those who reject Him. In doing so, they uphold the very separation Paul was trying to break down, thinking they are doing Jesus a favor.
Paul’s true message was to oppose the separation between Jews and Gentiles, declaring that all are now equal and belong to God’s culture through Christ. No one is cleaner or superior to another; salvation comes not through genetics or rituals, but through Christ.
The Jews had held similar beliefs in the past, which God addressed as well. Strangers who converted and wanted to worship God at the temple were denied access—denied the Passover, denied the Sabbath—under the claim that these belonged only to the Jews. In this conflict, God spoke through Isaiah:
“For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people” (Isa 56:4) Although the Jews ideas were based of God’s law, they were a misunderstanding of both who and why and practiced it the wrong way (Deut.23:1-2)
It was not because they were clean and the others unclean by external things.
It was never God’s intention that strangers or pagans who wished to follow Him should be dismissed or told to stay away from the Sabbath or the temple simply because of their genetics, if they had chosen to follow God with all their heart. It was those who demanded right without conversion that were to be excluded.
Jesus wanted to gather them all into one fold. But among the Jews, the belief in their own superiority led to the mistaken notion that what God had given them was for them alone.
What Paul fought against and warned about is now often used to support separation instead. The idea that Christians and Jews should find salvation through different means is false and based on “the commandments and doctrines of men” (Col. 2:22). The claims that there are separate Sabbaths, holy days, or laws for Jews and Christians are deceptions—not the gospel or the truth. Paul was not telling pagans they could remain pagan; he told them not to let anyone judge them for considering themselves part of God’s Israel. It wasn’t the pagans that demanded circumcision to be accepted; it was the Jews, and therefore we know it is this conflict Paul is addressing.
Paul wrote that Gentile believers are circumcised and purified through Christ. What once separated them from participation has now been removed. They are now to be welcomed into God’s culture, because everything belongs to Christ—and they, too, belong to Him.
The Passover was not merely a Jewish holiday; it was a prophecy and celebration of Christ. Therefore, Gentile believers were not to be judged for participating in it. The same applies to the Sabbath—they were now grafted into Israel and became part of Israel through Christ, called to share in its culture (Romans 11:17–24). The Feast of Tabernacles was not merely a Jewish feast; it foreshadows Christ’s second coming, just as Passover foreshadowed His first.
“But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ… For he is our peace, who hath made both one… Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.” (Ephesians 2:11–19)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:26–29
“That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.” Ephesians 3:6
A sentiment also expressed by Peter: “Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God.” 1 Peter 2:9–10
And Jesus explaining that they were to be united to the Jewish-Christian fold, not remain a separate fold: “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold… there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.” John 10:16
Now everyone—Jews and Gentiles alike—were to be united as one, purified by Christ and participating together in Him. They were to represent the fullness of Israel as one people. Pagans were no longer strangers. For Israel to be saved, the fullness of the Gentiles had to come in, so Christ could gather them as one fold when He comes. This was a secret few Jews had understood before, as they pictured the separation lasting and themselves as the ruler of the pagans. That the pagans were to inherit together with them did not sit well with many, and is a notion rejected by Jews even up until our own time.
The Jews who refused Jesus rejected this doctrine and fought it with all their might. And they found an ally once again in Rome.
The Jews sold their conviction that their culture, sabbath and feasts, had nothing to do with Christ at all. And that it was even an abomination to mix the two. They felt jealous and angered that pagans should keep the traditions that God had said made them a special people. And so pagans who tried to take part with their Jewish believers were heavily judged and seen as disruptive all over the empire.
Even the pagan families were upset that their family members turning to Christ would change their culture: “These men are Jews, and they are disturbing our city. They advocate customs that are not lawful for us as Romans to accept or practice.” (Acts 16:20–21) And so a pagan convert faced harsh judgment from Jews as well as their own people for changing customs, and it’s this pressure that would change Christianity later on, inducing them to create a new platform.
Jewish Christians often believed the way to make peace with their own people was to avoid being seen as removing this separation. They worried that offending their Jewish brethren would only harden their hearts. By showing themselves as strict observers of Jewish laws, they hoped to prove that following Jesus did not mean disrespecting the law. This led to hypocrisy among many Jewish Christians—an issue Paul addressed directly:
“But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? (Gal 2:11-14)
This passage is often misunderstood if we don’t grasp the prejudice Paul was addressing. As a Jew, Peter was not supposed to eat or worship with Gentiles, but he did so—except when other Jews were present, out of fear. Paul explains that the “ways of the Gentiles” he refers to are those of Christian Gentiles, who are saved through faith, not ritualism. When Jewish believers arrived, Peter reverted to strict ritualism, which Paul called not walking “uprightly according to the truth of the gospel.” Peter practiced separation and ritualism with Jews, but unity of faith with Gentiles—adding to confusion. If Gentiles weren’t good enough unless they underwent Jewish rituals, why did Peter live with them when Jews weren’t around? What message did this send to both Gentile and Jewish believers? Was he suggesting Gentiles were still not good enough or were still unclean?
Because Jews strongly objected to Gentile Christians practicing Jewish traditions and moral laws without a proper Jewish conversion, they convinced Rome that Christians were a dangerous sect causing offense and provoking conflict. Christians were accused of not being culturally proper and, therefore, a social problem. This led to Roman persecution of Christians. Roman authorities wanted to appease both Jews and pagans, and considered it worthwhile to sacrifice the group causing the unrest for the sake of peace.
Jews fight hard still to this day to keep this separation by the introduction of Noahite laws, and saying that Christians are not allowed to keep the Sabbath or celebrate their feasts, which they claim do not belong to Jesus. But they can keep some laws that they have set for the gentiles which they call the Noahite laws. This idea is in sharp contrast to God’s and Christ’s own words of making Israel one body – under one law.
Jews were so against the idea that Christians were to keep the biblical Sabbath that they pronounced a death sentence on them. The Jews’ attitude was in large part to blame for Christians abandoning the sabbath of the Bible. The people who were to bring the law to the world ended up doing the opposite of their calling.
Some rabbis have even pronounced death sentences on any Gentile who keeps the Sabbath, God’s feasts, or studies the Torah. These are among the harshest judgments, yet they are based on the commandments of men, not of God.
Anger toward Christians remains, as does the condemnation and irritation over their adoption of the biblical God alongside Christ. Many Jews believe this union is improper and defiles their religion. They see Jesus as the antichrist or as Baal. And Christians practicing their customs as Jezebels amidst them, bringing upon them God’s judgments. Some even call a jew converted to Christ a dead Jew, or the worst kind of Jew: a traitor.
It is to this conflict that Paul speaks, telling the Gentiles not to be troubled or frightened. He assures them that all of the law belongs to Christ, and they should not let anyone judge them for seeking God’s word or being part of God’s Israel and congregation.
The promises and the culture of God belong to Gentile believers just as much as to natural-born Jews. Jesus disregards claims that the biblical feasts and Sabbath belong only to Jews who reject Him and not to His followers. He told His followers to pray their flight would not be on the Sabbath, showing it remained holy for them. Jesus died on the “Jewish” feast of Passover, rose on the feast of First Fruits, and poured out the Holy Spirit on the feast of Pentecost—because these were never just “Jewish” feasts, but Christ’s all along. Without Christ, they have no true meaning. These feasts and holy days are now rightly represented by Christ’s followers, not those who reject Him. If Gentile converts or even Jewish Christians agreed that these belonged only to the Jews, they would be giving away what rightfully belongs to Christ. Therefore, it was important not to be intimidated by either the Jews or the prophesied power that would “think to change times and laws.”
By misunderstanding the debate, Christians have gone in the opposite direction. They uphold the separation, establish their own culture, and even claim that those who follow God’s original culture are cursed. Many Christians now celebrate Jews as saved through heritage and tradition—the opposite of Paul’s teaching. That they who have the circumcision by flesh have the real circumcision, some claim Jews are still the chosen priesthood after Sinai, thereby nullifying Christ’s new priesthood. But you cannot have two tabernacles, two sanctuaries, or two high priests. You cannot have both the lamb and Christ; salvation is found only in the tabernacle raised at the cross. Yet the majority of Christians have given Christ’s holy days to the Jews alone.
Which brings us to the final conflict Paul addresses, a topic especially to the Jews.
3. Should Jews continue sacrificing and do the temple rites, after Christ sacrificed himself and set up a new temple?
This topic is addressed primarily in the letter to the Hebrews and in letters to mixed Jewish-Gentile congregations facing similar conflicts.
Paul is clear that Christ’s sanctuary replaces the old. The priesthood, the furniture, the sacrifice, and the mediator are all transferred to Christ. There is now a temple in heaven, which is the original (Heb. 8). This is why Christ said the time would come when people would not gather at a physical mountain, but instead worship in spirit and truth—the only way to access the heavenly temple while on earth. The Sabbath, the feasts, and all the assemblies belong to Christ and are connected to the temple in heaven. In the book of Hebrews, Paul explains to the Jews that what they considered to be God’s temple was only a copy of the true temple in heaven. Even the priests were acting out a representation of Christ’s salvation. The entire sanctuary service was a prophecy of Christ’s mission to save humanity. Every item told a story of Christ’s relationship with His people and His plan to restore them.
The sacrifice showed how He would take our sins upon Himself and die for us. The law revealed our sin, and His blood would cover it, making peace between us and the law.
The feasts illustrated the stages and sequence of the plan of salvation, and the Sabbath revealed Christ’s true identity in relation to us.
By seeing Jesus as an enemy and clinging to shadowy symbols, they lost both salvation and an understanding of their own role in God’s plan.
Paul urged them to let go of the old system and look up to the sanctuary in heaven. The book of Hebrews was a daring and bold sermon, especially since the temple likely still stood in Jerusalem when it was written.
Could they truly let go of the physical lamb they were about to sacrifice and replace it with faith in Christ’s sacrifice?
For many, the rituals had become superstition; they believed disaster would befall them if they did not perform them. Now, they were being asked to replace these rituals with faith in Christ in a heavenly tabernacle they could not see. Many could not make that shift. Paul therefore explains that Abraham, to whom the promises were given, never worshiped at a temple, yet he received atonement and grace through faith. Paul argues that if the sanctuary, established over 400 years after Abraham, were the only way to salvation, then even Abraham and those before him would be excluded. He explains that they are saved through faith in Christ’s sacrifice, not through rituals—just as Abraham was.
In Acts, we see even Christian Jews persuading Paul to participate in a ritual sacrifice at the temple. Early Jewish Christians struggled to let go of the old system; they did not fully understand the change at first.
Many tried to be saved through both the earthly ritual system and the heavenly at the same time, not realizing that doing so minimized the power of Christ’s sacrifice and priestly service. Some even encouraged Gentiles to do likewise, which demanded they be circumcised and converted through rabbis. However, the two systems cancel each other out: if you seek salvation through the earthly rites, you act as if you do not need Christ’s ministry in heaven; if you trust in Christ as the sacrifice and priest in heaven, you do not need the earthly system for salvation.
The cross was sufficient. If both systems were needed for salvation, the meaning and power of the cross would be lost. Paul made it clear that ritual laws had no place once the true tabernacle was established. When the reality arrives, the symbol is no longer needed. It’s like sending someone to speak for you until you arrive; once you are there, the attention should shift to you. If people ignore you and continue focusing on your representative, it becomes disrespectful. In the same way, continuing with ritual symbols after Christ’s arrival was no longer appropriate.
In this way, something that once demonstrated obedience and respect can become rebellion if the circumstances change. This was true of the old tabernacle system: following it was obedience until Christ came, but after He came, it was rebellion.
The Bible shows us Christ in the heavenly sanctuary. John saw Him there, walking among the candlesticks, and saw the altar of incense, the Lamb of God, and the Ark of the Covenant in heaven. Sinful men served the earthly sanctuary, but the heavenly by the Son of God.
Paul was urging both Jews to let go of the shadowy symbols and Gentiles who were pressured to become ritualistic converts that this was not God’s will.
What was brought to an end at the cross?
Some Christians have twisted even this, claiming that Paul is speaking about God’s ten commandments and feasts. That it is God’s moral law and the times of gathering that compete with Christ’s sacrifice and must be done away with. But it was the sacrifice system that competed with the cross.
Another verse Rome has attempted to reinterpret tells us clearly what would end when Jesus died:
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Dan 9:27)
This refers to the ritual sacrifices. They were the only things the cross was meant to bring to an end—by fulfillment, through the ultimate sacrifice.
The prophecy also confirms that the Jewish tabernacle system would not go on beyond the “70 weeks,” which points to Christ’s first coming: “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy” (Dan 9:24)
To seal up meant to bring its final fulfillment. There was no continuation of salvation through these things after. It was the rituals of the earthly temple that ended at the cross. Once Christ’s blood reached the Mercy Seat, there was no need for animal blood to be taken there. The service ended because the blood brought was sufficient and would continue to leave an impact for as long as needed.
Thinking that the end of the ritual sacrifices meant the end of God’s moral law and culture has caused many Christians to lose their foundation.
God’s moral law defines sin and righteousness; the ritual laws are a prophecy of the atonement of sin. Therefore, the two have two completely different roles and purposes. One is made effective because of our transgression: the ritual law. Only the ritual laws came because of our sins. The law is not sin, and was not born from sin. Even God’s holy times and laws were set at creation, before sin, and were not given because of sin. Therefore, when people mix the two and claim the moral law and God’s times came because of sin, they confuse the matter and make God’s law appear as a curse to plague them rather than the moral standard of a perfect world.
Those who misunderstand Paul lack understanding of the difference between the ceremonial law and the moral law. They also place the sabbath – a moral law- with the ritual laws, separating what God has united.
However, if you understand the law and the prophets, you will also understand what Paul is talking about and why it matters.
Christians today who continue to separate Jews and Christians, support the establishment of a Jewish state, or advocate for rebuilding a new temple are defying God’s intent. They are doing exactly what Paul warned against—upholding the separation within God’s true Israel. They promise salvation through things that cannot save, to both Jew and Gentile. To the Jew, this means encouraging trust in their own flesh and empty rituals, supporting the idea of rebuilding the temple and resuming sacrifices—an act that is counted as witchcraft and idolatry in heaven (1 Samuel 15:23).
To the Gentile, it means making them believe they have no part in what God gave at creation to all humanity and later to Israel, leading them to create their own foundation, law, and order.
In this way, many have used Paul’s writings to support exactly what he warned against—believing they are serving God.
The result of this great falling away.
The drift from God’s original platform—His culture, Sabbath, and law—resulted in sin. The churches began to drift spiritually, both in doctrine and practice. Jesus was no longer seen as the priest within the God-given Jewish system, but as a detached religious figure without a “temple” or “home.” This led to the falling away and created a need for a new spiritual leader, which was found in the Papacy. When Christ’s culture and words had to be dismissed as “Jewish”—even the “faith of Jesus” and “the commandments of God”—the church sought a new leader to establish their own culture and law. The Jews did not accept them as Jews, and the pagans did not accept them as part of their religion, so they tried to establish a new religion. No one can move forward without purpose and structure, and Papal Rome provided both.
The conflicts between Jews who resisted Gentile converts, Gentile persecution, and the position of Judean Christians in between led to the loss and replacement of the original Christian foundation. With both sides pulling in opposite directions, Christians felt compelled to form their own religion. Rather than remain a hated Jewish sect, they sought to become a powerful faith in their own right. To distance themselves from their Jewish roots, they gave up the foundation of their faith—even though Jesus Himself was a Jewish king.
When a platform is removed, something else must take its place. That is how Jesus became a Greek or Roman icon—a Latin figure with Latin practices and laws. The Jews took what was meant to be attached to Christ and turned it into a symbol of rejecting Him, while Romans and Greeks adopted Christ’s name and the story of redemption, but without its true meaning or its connection to God’s temple.
Christians began seeking salvation through their own rituals. And if God-given rituals could not save a Jew, the self-invented rituals of the church could not save Christians either.
Paul stands as an important voice against the very things he is now used to defend. Because of Paul’s writing style and the widespread misunderstanding of the first-century conflict between Jews and converts, his words were taken out of context and used to build a new platform that the Papacy could exploit—a foundation that Protestants and evangelicals later continued to build on. Had Paul been understood correctly, this shift could not have happened. The Bible as a whole speaks against changing God’s times and laws or offering one salvation for Jews and another for Gentiles—yet only Paul’s letters are used to justify these changes. Even to the Samaritan woman, Jesus was clear: there was not one salvation for Samaritans and another for Jews. He said: “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).
Why did he not say salvation came from him? Why the Jews? Jesus is explaining to her that having the right foundation for being saved through Him is essential. She could not add Him to her Samaritan ideology and be saved through that. She had to understand His salvation through the Jewish system.
The same warning would apply to all who try to understand the cross and its meaning through a corrupted system. The Samaritans were not purely pagan; they saw themselves as Israel, believing in Moses and the prophets just as the Jews did. But they had, through interaction with Gentiles, been mixing in a wrong understanding. And so Jesus told her that the Jews had the right one, and that His salvation came through what they had been given.
Christians today have likewise blended truth and error, paganism and Christ, but only by restoring Christ’s salvation through the Jewish platform can they make sure they worship in “truth and spirit”.
Removing God’s law created a need for a human lawgiver. Without God’s law, the church became lawless, leading to destruction and confusion. Rejecting God’s law created a hunger for another authority, allowing Papal power to fill the void. Keep in mind, the Catholic Church’s laws throughout history far exceed God’s laws in number.
The Code of Canon Law (Codex Iuris Canonici) is a separate book from the Catechism and contains exactly 1,752 distinct laws. For comparison, the Torah (books of Moses) has only 613 laws, most of them ritualistic and fulfilled through Christ’s ministry. Half of these laws can only be observed if there is an earthly temple. 55 to 65 of these laws require a sovereign state or government to perform, as they relate to judgment in a state institution. This leaves us with very few laws: mainly moral laws (the Ten Commandments), God’s assembly feasts, and dietary instructions. Christ, as High Priest, is in charge of the rest, being the priest and kingly government. This means only Christ can perform the judgments as the higher government. So Christians are told not to execute judgment, and that Christ will do this when He comes.
Every church is packed with said and unspoken rules. Many preachers are persuading their assembly that Jesus is sad if you keep His sabbath and feasts. And that He is honored if they keep their own laws. The result is different practices in different churches. Having the Bible and following Christ’s example is secondary to most who follow human laws and traditions. Had they met Christ today, they would not have shared culture with Him. If Christ has to change to fit into a church, the church is in the wrong.
Ironically, by dismissing God’s law, many Christians have ended up with far more laws imposed by their churches. In addition, societal and “jungle” laws, and to add to all that, all the laws of their government in whatever land they live in. The number of laws existing in a Christian’s life is greater than that of the Old Covenant in the era of Judges in the Bible.
While saying Christians are free to violate God’s feasts, the papacy demands celebration of their own feasts, even attendance at their Easter.
There is no such thing as a church or a Christian group living without law. In reality, it’s simply a matter of exchanging one set of laws for another.
While claiming that the Sabbath is legalism and has been abolished, they demand that Sunday be sacred by law. It was never truly about freedom from God’s law or the good news of its abolition; it was always about replacing God’s law with their own.
No one practices the idea of faith without law; it is used only to argue against obeying God’s law.
No one cites Paul to accuse others of legalism for attending church on Sunday or going to Mass at Easter. Paul’s words are only used this way when someone tries to follow God’s appointed times and laws—and then they are condemned for it.
Yet Paul’s words remain relevant: “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days” (Col 2:16).
As recorded, as it continued to happen:
“And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city, And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans. And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them” (Acts 16:20-22)
To this day, the Roman Papal church forbids Christians from following customs rooted in God’s law, making the conflicts of the first-century church still relevant in our own time.
Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast.
When Daniel saw the three first beasts, he could easily identify them with animals in the animal kingdom—a lion with wings, a bear, a leopard with wings and four heads.
But when he saw the fourth beast he did not have something to compare it with and it was said to be “- dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. – Dan 7:7
Daniel was so horrified by the ugliness of what he saw that he could not compare it to anything. The fourth beast was some kind of hybrid, hard to identify even in its parts. The fourth beast was the Roman Empire, but not just the Roman Empire; it was Western Europe represented by the ten horns. To understand how the vision can go from Babylon to Europe, we have to understand its expansion and its relation to God’s people.
Rome’s first interaction with Jerusalem
God’s people first became connected with Rome during the time of the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests. In these years, many from Judah were sold into slavery to the Greeks, who were colonizing the coastlands, including southern Italy. Many enslaved people ended up in the growing Roman kingdom through slave markets, while others escaped from Assyria and Greece to Rome as fugitives. Although there was a tradition that fugitives from Troy founded Rome, historical evidence places its founding much later, aligning with the period of Assyria’s and Babylon’s conquests and the reshaping of kingdoms. Medo-Persia also attacked Lydia and Scythia, causing many to flee those areas. Some Israelites fled Assyria; others fled Babylon, all around the time Rome was being established. For many at that time, Rome appeared to be outside the major conflicts of the era, making it seem like one of the safer and more promising places in Western Europe.
Rome’s existence is one of the curses that would rise against God’s people because of their unfaithfulness. This means that God would have hindered Rome’s spread to the Near East if God’s people had been faithful. They were the empire that never ought to have been.
As recorded in Deuteronomy: “The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favor to the young” (Deu 28:49-50)
The Punic Wars made Rome the dominant power in the West after it defeated Carthage, a large Phoenician trading city-state.
Rome emerged from the western edge of the known world, conquering Carthage, which was the main trading hub in North Africa. By defeating its greatest rival and enslaving its people, Rome gained both power and influence. This conquest also tied Rome to God’s people, since Carthage was a Phoenician city where Tyre and Sidon often traded and exchanged slaves. Judean and Israelite captives likely ended up in Rome as a result. Then Rome took Greece in 146 BC and made it subject to Rome. From 192–188 BC, Rome fought against the Seleucid Empire and defeated it, forcing the Seleucids to cede most of their territory in Asia Minor.
Because Jerusalem’s then-greatest enemy was weakened, Rome was seen almost as a God-sent deliverer, inspiring their alliance with Rome in 161 BC. The agreement is found in Daniel 11, which goes through the timeline of the beasts from the last Persian kings to Christ’s second coming:
“And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong…” (Dan 11:23)
Judas Maccabeus was a Jewish priest who also was a warrior initiated the first The Roman–Jewish Treaty in 161 BC.
Historians quote the wording of the agreement between Judah and Rome: ‘The decree of the senate concerning a league of assistance and friendship with the nation of the Jews. It shall not be lawful for any that are subject to the Romans to make war with the nation of the Jews, nor to assist those that do so, either by sending them corn, or ships, or money; and if any attack be made upon the Jews, the Romans shall assist them, as far as they are able; and again, if any attack be made upon the Romans, the Jews shall assist them. And if the Jews have a mind to add to, or to take away anything from, this league of assistance, that shall be done with the common consent of the Romans. And whatsoever addition shall thus be made, it shall be of force.’ This decree was “written by Eupolemus, the son of John, and by Jason, the son of Eleazer, when Judas was high priest of the nation, and Simon, his brother, was general of the army. And this was the first league that the Romans made with the Jews, and was managed after this manner.” [Flavius Josephus, “Antiquities of the Jews,” book 12, chap. 10, sec. 6, The Works of Flavius Josephus, p. 374.]
General Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus laid the first siege on Jerusalem by Rome.
For a time, during the weakening of the Seleucid Empire and with Rome’s support, Judah established its independence, known as the Hasmonean Kingdom of Jerusalem. Later, the great Roman general Pompey attacked the Seleucids and took over the territory after the empire had collapsed into civil war and was too weak to govern. Rome then annexed Syria and made it a Roman province in 64 BC, thereby taking over as the “King of the North”.
Internal conflict has always weakened nations, and Jerusalem was no exception. Both times Rome conquered Jerusalem, it was partly due to strife within. During the first Roman siege of Jerusalem, Queen Salome Alexandra’s sons, Hyrcanus II and Aristobulus II, fought over the throne after her death. Each appealed to Rome for support. General Pompeius favored Hyrcanus. In response, Aristobulus refused to surrender, fortified the city, and prepared to resist the Romans. Previously, Jerusalem had enjoyed freedom, but only because it complied with Roman interests. When Aristobulus defied Rome, Pompeius besieged the city and, after three months, captured Aristobulus in 63 BC. The internal feud gave Rome the pretext it needed to intervene and restructure the region. Jerusalem then became a Roman client kingdom: Rome chose the king, who had to remain loyal to Rome, pay taxes, and follow its foreign policy. The Jews retained control over their religion and some internal matters.
The last Hellenistic empire after Alexander the Great was the Egyptian Ptolemaic kingdom. Rome only gained full control over former Greek territories after conquering Egypt. The dramatic conflict involving Cleopatra VII, Mark Antony, and Augustus at the Battle of Actium has inspired many Hollywood movies. When Augustus won, he invaded Egypt in 30–31 BC, and Egypt became a Roman province.
Augustus was then made the first emperor of Rome, as Rome had previously been a republic and was now shifting to a new form of government.
It was Emperor Augustus’ taxation decree that brought Joseph and a pregnant Mary to Bethlehem, where she gave birth to Jesus.
Emperor Augustus required the people of Judea and Jerusalem to pay taxes and ordered everyone to return to their ancestral hometown for registration. This decree led to Joseph and Mary, who was heavily pregnant, traveling to Bethlehem, which fulfilled the prophecy about where Christ would be born. As the Bible records:
“And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)And all went to be taxed by the new taxing system, every one into his own city.And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child” (Luk 2:1).
In Daniel 11 this occasion is also recorded about the new king of the north:
“Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle” (Dan 11:20)
Augustus became the first emperor of Rome during its imperial period, at the height of Roman glory, as the verse says. He established a period of peace known as the Pax Romana, which lasted for several decades and marked a time of great stability in the Roman imperial age. Although many rulers imposed taxes, Augustus was not the first; he introduced “fresh taxation” and new taxation laws. Only about 8 years later, he died, but as the verse says, not in battle. He died in 14 AD at age 75 in his homeland.
During the time of his taxation period, it was Herod the Great who was the Roman-elected Jewish-Edomite king who tried to kill baby Jesus after being told about his birth through the wise men of the East. This caused Mary and Joseph, Jesus’ birth mum and foster father, to run to Egypt, but upon returning, the bible tells us an angel warned them against Herod’s son, who was then ruling.
Herod’s son Herod Archelaus was very unpopular among both Jews and Samaritan leaders, who complained about him to Rome only to be met with even less freedom as a people. Emperor Augustus removed Herod Archelaus, and placed Jerusalem under direct Roman administration instead. Other lines of Herod continued to rule in Galilee as Roman client princes. It’s the later royal house of Herod in Galilee that executes John the Baptist and to whom the governor, Pontius Pilate, asks for advice at the trial of Jesus. But Jerusalem remained under Roman administration.
Herod Archelaus kneels before Augustus
Jesus grew up in this climate, where Jews longed for freedom and independence, hoping for a political messiah to deliver them from Rome and restore the kingdom of God. However, Jesus made it clear that he came to save them from their sins—not from Roman rule. He taught that even Roman oppression was a consequence of Israel’s own disobedience, and that the real issue was spiritual, not political. Had they correctly understood prophecy, they would have realized it was not yet time for the restoration of God’s kingdom on earth. Impatient and frustrated, they struggled to accept that God was calling them to personal change, especially when the Romans and pagans seemed even more wicked. This misunderstanding led them to miss the deeper meaning behind their suffering and the requirements for God’s coming kingdom. When Israel had enjoyed independence and freedom, they became more corrupt than the surrounding nations, which is one reason God allowed them to lose their independence. Unlike the other nations, who sinned in the name of their gods, Israel committed bloodshed in the name of God Himself, making their sins even greater.
God had told them it was the reason they lost their independence in the first place:
“And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations… and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her… Ye multiplied more than the nations that are round about you.” (Ezekiel 5:6–7)
Entitlement and anger can be the recipe for disaster. The world is horrified by how Israel is taking land from the Palestinians and the suffering of the Palestinian people. Still, God was horrified by Israel in biblical times for their bloodshed and unfair treatment of others. He let them be conquered because, instead of being a witness of Him, they dragged His name in the mud. When God’s people leave God, Satan wants them to use God’s name to do his bidding. This is in part why Jesus refused to give the Jewish nation independence unless they were “born again” spiritually. Modern Israel will be held accountable for mixing God’s name, Sabbath and feasts with bloodshed (Isaiah 1:12-18)
When the nation that was to represent His name to the world dragged it through the mud and caused everyone to turn away from God instead, God had to act for everyone’s salvation. How could his throne remain raised in a nation twisting his law and judgments? The mingling of truth with error brought out the worst in them. And so God could not give them their freedom back until they gave up their sins, repented, and returned to Him right. God chose the alternative to allow pagan nations to rule instead, for at least they did not claim to represent Him in what they did. That is, until Rome would follow in Israel’s footsteps later on.
When Christ would not save them from Rome, they delivered Him to be executed by Rome, pledging allegiance to Ceacar, the emperor of Rome, in rebellion against God.
Israel’s first connections with Rome:
A prophesied curse came because of their unfaithfulness to God.
As enslaved people and refugees
Prophesied as a great enemy of God to come in the prophecies of Daniel.
An alliance Judah made against another enemy
A nation they asked to interfere in their governmental affairs.
A client kingdom under Rome
Jerusalem administered directly by Rome.
“Dreadful and terrible”
These two words describe its powerful and ruthless nature. Daniel saw a terrifying creature, but the vision may also reflect how heaven views this empire. Rome was not just militarily strong—it was cunning and manipulative. It even became the executioner of the Creator, nailing to the cross the very hands that had shaped Adam from the dust. Both Babylon and Rome destroyed the temple in Jerusalem, but only Rome destroyed both the physical temple and, through the crucifixion of Christ, the spiritual temple—His body. Rome did more than just conquer; it first scattered God’s people and tried to erase them, then later claimed to be their divinely chosen leaders. They made their own laws in Christ’s name, often contradicting God’s law. This power not only committed terrible acts, but continued them while claiming to represent Christ, blaspheming and abusing His name. Rome executed Christ, divided His clothing, and then claimed to be the only mediator of His blood, even selling it as a commodity.
Rome’s part in Christ’s crucifixion was significant. They sentenced him, mocked him, were violent towards him, put the crown of thorns on his head, nailed him to the cross, and pierced his side. They also divided his clothes and cast lots for them, sealed his tomb, and then lied about Him being resurrected for money. The Roman councilor thought he could wash his hands of his guilt, but he could never.
Destroying the old temple and desecrating the temple in heaven and sitting in a temple as God, and showing himself as a god and judge to God’s people. For anyone who resisted was fought or destroyed. But apart from how they treated Christ and His people, or even the Jews who rejected Christ, Rome was ruthless to many other nations as well.
Rome went from persecuting the Christians to claiming to be the representative for Jesus on earth and the leader of the church with the right to change God’s law.
“and strong exceedingly”
Rome went from a significant and fairly young nation to a dominant power unlike ever seen before. It appeared unstoppable at its peak. Some nations withdrew instantly as the Roman expanded their territory, knowing they could not fight them and win. Unlike others that advanced with armed forces, Rome gained territory through a variety of approaches, all of which served its interests. Mostly it expanded through diplomacy. Rome expanded through military conquest but also through strategic alliances that created dependence. They annexed client kingdoms (such as Jerusalem), acquired territories by inheritance (when a king left his kingdom to Rome), established colonies, gradually extended Roman citizenship, and suppressed revolts by reorganizing regions into provinces.
Much like the United States later expanded through opportunism, Rome began as a small group and grew powerful through shrewd strategy and adaptability.
In Rome’s early days, the Italian peninsula was divided among many smaller peoples. As Rome expanded, it offered citizenship as a reward to neighboring Latin communities, encouraging them to join Rome as partners rather than remain subjugated. After the Social War (91–88 BC), nearly all free inhabitants of Italy received Roman citizenship, helping to unify the region under Roman control.
It then began granting citizenship to local elites in other parts of Western Europe, as well as to people in the colonies and in Gaul. In Spain, loyal leaders were equally rewarded with citizenship. In the Greek and Asia Minor territories, citizenship was rewarded for loyalty or service, and non-citizen soldiers from the provinces who joined the Roman armies could be awarded citizenship after several years of service.
The Bible alludes to the advantages of Roman citizenship. Paul, born in the Roman colony of Tarsus, possessed citizenship from birth—a status that protected him on several occasions.
In the town of Philippi, Paul and Silas were beaten and imprisoned. But upon hearing they were Roman citizens, the leaders got frightened:
“But Paul said unto them, They have beaten us openly uncondemned, being Romans, and have cast us into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily? nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out. And the serjeants told these words unto the magistrates: and they feared, when they heard that they were Romans. And they came and besought them, and brought them out, and desired them to depart out of the city” (Act 16:37-39).
Another time Paul was imprisoned after coming to Jerusalem: “And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned? When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman. Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea. And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born. Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him (Acts 22:25-29)
Being a Roman citizen came with benefits and rights. Paul used it to get better treatment.
Lastly, Paul exercises a key right of a Roman citizen by appealing to Caesar before Governor Festus (Acts 25:10–12).
This gives us a biblical understanding of why Roman citizenship was so valuable. It protected a person’s rights and often ensured more humane treatment. Rome’s early power did not come from sheer numbers or military force, but from alliances, shrewdness, and strategy. They persuaded many that joining Rome would bring prosperity. Rome often adopted local gods and customs, making it less threatening to new subjects, and many people gave up their cultural independence for opportunity. Where other empires sparked uprisings by clashing with local religions and traditions, Rome mostly avoided these mistakes.
Strength takes many forms, but Rome’s greatness depended on a long series of victories: the Latin War, Samnite Wars, Pyrrhic War, Macedonian Wars, Seleucid Wars, Achaean War, Celtiberian Wars, Jugurthine War, Cimbrian War, Gallic Wars, Mithridatic Wars, and its own civil wars. Most importantly, Rome’s success in the Social War came from rewarding allies and making alliances attractive.
“It was diverse from all the beasts that were before it”
Here lies the core of understanding the problem with Rome. The word translated as “diverse” literally means “change,” and in most instances throughout the book of Daniel, it is rendered as “change.” About the horn rising from the same beast, the angels explain that it would “think to change times and laws” using the same word.
The best translation in harmony with who this beast is and what it would do is: “…and it was changed from all the beasts that were before it.” or “…and it was altered from all the beasts that came before it”.
The importance of this one sentence lies in the fact that all the other beasts had been pagan state governments, and so was Rome, but then it changed its religion and became different from the other beasts. Even its leader, who was supposed to be the high priest of the Roman religion, became the protector and propagandist of the competing religion.
We find a parallel in Babylon. King Nebukadnezzar goes from honoring and praising his own pagan gods to praising the God of Israel, the God of the defeated people instead. A peculiar thing at the time, where victory always ensured loyalty to one’s own gods and viewing others’ gods as inferior. Despite Nebukadnezzar’s acknowledgment of the true God, Babylon remained pagan, as did the kings who followed. The empire itself did not change its religion. The prophet Daniel even brought it up to Nebukadnezzar’s grandson that he knew about God because of Nebukadnezzar’s conversion, yet chose not to respect Him: “And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this; But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven” (Dan.5:22-23)
What made Rome stand out as “changed” or “diverse” from the other beasts was most certainly the change of religion. But it also experimented with several forms of government throughout its relation to God’s people. This beast was never just one thing. It would become the first nation to be a Christian empire, something never seen before in human history.
The angel explaining the vision to Daniel says: “Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces” (Dan 7:23).
“and it had ten horns”
Medo-Persia and Greek “horns”
In Daniel 8, we learn that horns serve as a metaphor for kingdoms rising from an empire, just as heads do (Dan. 8:6-8). In Daniel chapter 8, we see Daniel receive yet more information about the empires of the image in Daniel 2, now described with different symbols. First, they are presented as carnivores, but now they are presented as typical animals of prey, a ram and a goat. Playing on how both these nations would go from strong and dominant to become prey themselves. But also to give additional information on their characteristics. It describes a fight between a ram and a goat of unusual character. Where a ram would naturally defeat a goat, the goat is here seen defeating the ram. Even by an unusual fighting style for a goat, and with a horn in its forehead rather than on the top of its head. Through all this imagery, God is telling a story of the speedy surprise of the conquest of Alexander the Great upon Persia.
Daniel 8 explains the transition from Medo-Persian rule to Greek. The Battle of Gaugamela (1st October 331 BCE, also known as the Battle of Arbela) was the final meeting between Alexander the Great and King Darius III of Persia. After this victory, Alexander was the King of all Asia.
Greece in Daniel 2, Daniel 7 and Daniel 8. The four heads on the Greek beast are four horns in the next vision, showing us that horns and heads have a similar meaning in Bible prophecy. On the goat, the first horn represents Alexander the Great, the four horns going in each cardinal direction representing the four Greek kingdoms established by Alexander’s four generals.
God tells the story in several visions. Changing up the imagery of each power to say something new about them. This is Medo-Persia in Daniel 2, 7, and 8. The foot the bear is leaning on is the large horn of the ram.
So, with this additional vision, Medo-Persia goes from being depicted as the arms and chest of silver in an image of a man, to a bear leaning on one side, to a ram with two horns. One horn represents Media and the other Persia: “one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last,” just like the bear raised itself on one side.
The Greek Empire goes from being the image’s belly and thighs of brass to a four-headed leopard to a goat with one broken horn, and four horns that come out of the goat after. The four heads of the leopard therefore become four horns in the next vision, showing the four Greek generals’ kingdoms as both. The same is true of the horns on the ram; they both illustrate kingdoms. Establishing what the angel also explains: that horns are kingdoms.
The Roman beast: eleven horns “a fourth beast…and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.. there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots”. “And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land” (Dan 8:9).
While in Daniel 8, Rome itself is not shown as another beast, rather as a horn coming “out of one” of “the four winds of heaven” “which waxed exceeding great” (Dan. 8 & 9), Rome is therefore here shown as a horn coming into the picture from outside the picture, so to speak. This was the case with Rome, as it came from outside the known conflicts of the Near East at that point. Often said to come from one of the ends of the world, which is also typified by a cardinal direction, as in Daniel 8. It was considered irrelevant and not a threat because it was on the other side of the sea, yet its power stretched all the way to Egypt and Jerusalem. Rome was a surprise from the west. In Daniel 7, we see the beast having ten horns, but three are broken off to make room for another eleventh. In Daniel 8, God says this eleventh “little horn growing big” is the continuation of the Roman beast, cleverly exposing the little horn in Daniel 7 as a kingdom situated in Rome itself. And so from being a beast with ten horns, in Daniel 8, the eleventh horn is revealed to be Rome itself.
Don’t get this one wrong! The horn is coming out of one of the cardinal directions, not from one of the Greek horns. It heads toward the east and south, toward God’s land. By interpreting this one text in Daniel 8 wrong, people have been led to misunderstand who the horn is and believe it is the leader of the Hellenistic Seleucid empire rather than Rome.
In Daniel 7, the focus on the fourth beast turns to the ten horns and the coming eleventh. Because this eleventh horn, which is Rome itself only Rome in a divided Rome, is the great enemy God wants to warn his people against. It even says how God will judge it especially. So from Daniel 7 & 8 we learn what the horns symbolize. It illustrates a timeline for the beast, in which power shifts to its horns. In the case of Rome, ten horns outside Rome and one inside. Meaning the Roman power and land would be divided.
In the original image, the ten horns are described as feet on the statue, part iron and part clay. The iron represents Rome, and the iron in the clay shows how a part of Rome’s strength continues through these other kingdoms.
And so Rome goes from the legs of iron, in part continuing in the feet, to a beast with ten horns, to a horn coming from the west towards the east, south, and God’s land.
The division of Rome goes from the feet part iron and clay, to eleven horns on the Roman beast, to one of the horns as Rome and a continuation of Rome.
Identifying the ten horns
The horns on the beast are in the Western Roman territory where Rome was the capital, as the Eastern empire continued for a thousand years more. This limits who the ten horns are to the nations of western and central Europe. The time frame for when they take power also places them within what was once the Western Roman territory, although this does not limit the growth of territory they will have. All the great nations in the prophecies extend their territory.
The Bible describes the ten horns on the Roman beast as ten groups or tribes whose kingdoms emerged from Rome. A lot of their territory was once part of the Roman Empire. Genetic research shows that Western European populations are closely related. Roman culture, the Latin language, and Roman customs continued with these nations and still shape our world today. For example, our calendar, month and week names, the Latin alphabet, and thousands of Latin words in science, medicine, and law all come from Rome. Republican government, architecture, roads, engineering, military science, and many teaching and measurement systems also have Roman origins. Unlike most ancient cultures, Rome’s legacy did not fade. It still shapes the world today, especially through these ten horns.
The angel Gabriel explains to Daniel: “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings” (Dan 7:24).
The Bible sets some guidelines in identifying the ten horns. One is that the tribes have to be in western and central Europe, as the East Roman Empire did not fall until 1483 and was not ruled from Rome. This excludes, for instance, Greece. Nor does it fit the timeline of the little horn. The tribes have to begin establishing themselves on what had been Roman territory some time before or between the fall of Rome in 476 AD and the recapturing of Rome in 538 AD from the Ostrogoths, which would make way for the new Roman Pontiff. Lastly, although borders would change, at least seven tribal-kingdoms of the horns had to stay in power till Christ’s second coming: “ And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom”. From the interpretation rules set by the kingdoms before them, we can see that capitals can change; an example is in the fourth head of the leopard, where the Seleucid empire, upon widening its territory, moved its capital but remained the same kingdom and head. So we need the same leading people in about the same territory.
After Rome left its northernmost lands in Britain, Germanic Anglo-Saxons invaded, mingled with locals, and became dominant. Their influence is still strong in Britain today. This invasion of northern Roman territory occurred between 400 and 600 AD. The Anglo-Saxons are likely one of the ten horns. In Roman Gaul, after 400 AD, the Germanic Franks expanded and took over much of what is now France by 486. This is another clear example of a horn. The Suebi, another Germanic group, settled in Portugal and northern Spain, while the Visigoths became dominant in Spain. Other important tribes in the western Roman lands included the Burgundians, Alemanni, and Lombards—all Germanic. Identifying the horns can be tricky because names, borders, and countries changed, but the people remained in the old Roman territories. These groups mostly came from three backgrounds: Gallic/Celtic, Germanic, and Latin. After Rome’s fall, Germanic rulers dominated. For example, Spain and France had Gallic roots, then Latin expansion, and later Germanic takeover, so populations contain all three elements. Several of the ten tribes from the old Roman territory became powerful nations as they formed modern identities and borders: England, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Germany, France, Belgium, and Italy. All were once part of the Western Roman Empire and later gained even more global influence. Each successive empire or nation took more land. Babylon was great, but Medo-Persia took more, then Greece took more than Medo-Persia, Rome more than Greece, and finally the Western European nations spread even further across the world.
Former Roman territories have been great influences on the world stage. Former Roman territories have been great influences on the world stage. France was the first government on record stating “there is no God,” the leading voice of Atheism worldwide. Communism and socialism likewise spread through ideas of European philosophers and writers. Catholicism and Protestantism originated in Europe. And Orthodoxy from the Eastern Roman terretories.
These nations became colonizers, taking all of America, a large part of Asia, and Africa before withdrawing from most places, yet remaining among the most powerful nations on earth to this day. Among the three world languages spoken for international communication are either Latin or heavily influenced by Latin vocabulary, English, French, and Spanish. It’s from where Catholicism and Protestantism emerged and spread worldwide. It is also from where atheism and communism came, affecting many nations in the world. There is no question of these tribes’ influence on the world stage. It’s both where the Bible’s first were printed, and printed Bibles first were burnt. And that is part of God’s issue with the European nations. In one hand they do good, in another they do bad. In many aspects they were preferred over their competitors when they provided religious freedom for God’s people; in another aspect they seduced them to leave God too.
The borders between European nations have been redrawn countless times, yet it is the same tribes circulating and establishing nations. According to the Bible, it is during the days of these ‘kings’ that Christ’s second coming will occur. His return will destroy these powerful nations, not build them up. This means that these tribes will remain in control of their lands until the end. Western Europe, therefore, will not become a colony of Russia, Islam, or China, if the prophecy is correct. The horns will retain power over their territories until the end.
Not only would they become powerful and have part of Rome within them, but they would never be able to become a single empire, although God tells us they would try.
“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay” (Dan.2:43). Western European nations have consistently tried to unify Europe in various ways but have constantly failed in the long haul. Papal Rome, in their prime, tried to control them but has been unable to prevent them from conflicting with one another and even with themselves. Methods of marrying European royals to each other to create unity also failed in the long run. Charlemagne (768-814) managed, for a time, to unite much of western and central Europe, but it would not last. Otto I (936–973) tried to unite large parts, but his empire did not remain one nation. Charles V (1519-1556) wanted to unite Europe and brought some countries together, but his dream would never come true.
French king Louis XIV (1643–1715) sought French dominance in Europe but never achieved it. Napoleon Bonaparte (1804–1815) conquered most of continental Europe before being defeated. Adolf Hitler (1933–1945) attempted to create a German-controlled “New Order” across Europe through conquest and occupied or controlled most of continental Europe before being defeated.
In fact, most of those who knew Daniel’s prophecies at the time were less worried about Hitler succeeding than others, as they expected him to fail at some point.
The last attempt has been the European Union. European leaders promoted voluntary economic and political integration. And although a common national song, army, and culture have been suggested, constant resistance has remained. And conflict as “iron and clay” do not mix even in a diplomatic union. God has declared that He will not allow Europe to be one nation again.
“Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame”
Through the prophecy, we learn that Christ’s second coming will occur while Europe still stands divided, for it is He who will destroy it and “shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms,” and its fall will be the hand of God: “Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands”. (Dan.2:44&45) This ultimately means that if the stone crushing “the feet” or the horns of the beast is not cut out by human hands, then Western Europe will not be completely destroyed and taken over by another earthly nation. Saying “not completely” because the Bible will tell us several ways these kingdoms will be plagued to exhaustion. What God’s conflict with the European tribes is, we will investigate as it is revealed in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation.
Another horn
“I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things” (Dan 7:8)
The angel is now explaining the coming of a great enemy of God who will arise from the Roman Empire and even exist till Christ’s second coming. We are quickly shown that God is not so much targeting the ten kingdoms as he is targeting this one power rising among them, to whom God directs Daniel’s attention. This power coming out of Rome is said to become a real threat to God’s people even till the very end of time. And here, God provides a timeline that explains part of the last part of the great image in Daniel 2. Here we learn more about events that will affect the Roman Empire, as well as those taking place during its division that will have a great impact on God’s people.
Three horns of the beast have to be broken off to make room for this new horn that grows bigger than the others.
The horn growing up amongst them is Papal Rome, which would not only have its throne in Rome’s heartland but become a great influencer over all the other Western European tribes for many centuries. Three tribes would, however, stand in its way from its beginning.
This is illustrated by the horn breaking off three horns as it presses itself up, rather than merely subducing them when grown.
The Roman emperor had helped Christianize Rome and given the pope the task of being both a political and religious ruler. While the Roman emperor had his capital in Constantinople, the Pope was to have his in Rome. He had appointed him with the power to punish those Christians who would not submit orderly under his leadership. This did not sit well with other Christians, who looked upon the pope as a charlatan and a deceiver and even saw themselves as his target. The Pope had resistance from several larger tribes as well. But the three tribes that directly hindered his growth and position in Rome were the Heruli, the Vandals, and the Ostrogoths. And although Catholic historians later would assign them as evil, they were in large part converted to Christianity, just not papal Christianity. And although they politically battled for the same territories around Rome, it was also a religious quarrel. The Pope, as a religious leader, also had to defeat these competitors to survive and grow his own empire. The Ostrogoths had taken Rome, and with the help of the Roman emperor, they were driven out, and only then could the Pope take his seat as a religious-political authority based in Rome. The Ostrogoths were the last of the three to be plucked out, and were driven out of Rome in 538 AD. The Heruli’s power was broken in 493 AD, and the Vandals were defeated in 534 AD. From then on, “the little horn,” the papal Rome, would grow larger and larger until it became the leading influence and voice of Europe, even crowning kings and using alliances to establish its religious and political position. It was only at the rebellion of Napoleon, who in the presence of the Holy See decided to put his crown upon his own head, that the Pope’s long-standing grip was coming to an end.
“In this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things”.
The Papal leader claimed to have been the vicar of Christ on earth, even a kingdom of Christ. But He did not live as Christ, have the culture of Christ, or follow the laws of God. The Pope made big claims and took titles that rightfully belonged to Christ. He reorganized the church away from Christ’s own set rules. He called himself Father, high priest, and teacher. He even called himself holy. And he changed God’s times and laws. He replaced God’s Sabbath with a new day and God’s feasts with his own pagan-inspired ones, changing Christianity into something very different from what it had been originally. He encouraged prayers to saints and made Mary a goddess figure to be worshipped. And even permitted images of God to be created to be used in worship. But to all of that he added the great sin of persecuting and killing Christians who tried to be faithful to God’s law and culture, claiming Christ had sent him to do these horrible acts. That the faithful were of the devil, and he himself was God’s hand. And the pope also did the abomination of Israel that led to their captivity, and God leaving His earthly kingdom, by mixing pagan doctrines and practices with the truth.
God had said to Ezekiel: “Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? But turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations” (Ezek.8:6)
The pagans left God, but when those who claim to be His followers disobey Him and take His name upon pagan practices and bloodshed, God is the one to leave. Therefore, Rome is called the one who brings desolation: “they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate”. (Dan.11:35)
God would not stay in a sanctuary built to glorify His name when the people put His name together with falsehood. Would you have someone represent you who consistently lied about you? No one would, and neither does God. Although God has grace toward man’s ignorance and practices patience, there is a time when He has to act, or all will be lost. After centuries of Israel and Judah being two-faced, God refused to be with them when their worship and celebrations were mingled with cruelty. Their condition was not just shown in what they declared to believe, but seen in the state of their weak and poor among them and in the rulings of their courts. A just people would not act unjustly. Neither would he stay in a church that did the same. He would not care about feasts and events to His glory if done in defiance or together with abusive behavior towards others. Every time His name is systematically abused in a religious setting, it causes desolation for those who do it. Meaning God withdraws from them. He did it at Mount Sinai, and moved His tent outside their camp. He moved from His tabernacle in Shiloh, from His temple in Jerusalem, and even Jesus is seen outside the seventh church in Revelation, knocking. He had to leave but is willing to come back if the truth is revived.
Can you pay your way to salvation? A significant portion of the funds used to rebuild St. Peter’s Basilica in the 16th century came from the issuing of indulgences in exchange for financial contributions. In the Catholic Church, an indulgence is a way to reduce or remove the temporal punishment for sins confessed to the priest.
God had been with the church before it united with Roman politics, religions, and governments, and He had to withdraw once it became a kingdom within that system. Rather than repenting and letting Christ back in the church, they went even more astray and elected a pope. And so the Papal church was never God’s church, and the Papal head was never God’s elected. And the Roman emperor who set up the papacy to rule had in fact set up this abomination that left the people desolate of God’s presence in their religious observance and celebrations.
The bible itself gives us the rules of interpretation. In the Old Testament, God called his people harlots when they mingled pagan practices with His, and when they sought help from ungodly governments. A woman represents a church. She is riding a beast, which is always a symbol of a government. So a woman riding a beast is a church that controls state power to gain power and to get it to do its bidding.
The political church is an abomination. Jesus gave the following warning regarding Rome: “But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains” (Mar 13:14) . Speaking of Rome destroying Jerusalem, but also Rome destroying the church. For as Jesus said these words, Rome was already in Jerusalem, Rome already governed the city, and so it had been throughout Christ’s life. However, the people of Jerusalem remained in authority over their religious worship. What shifted when Rome destroyed the temple was that Jerusalem became under the Roman civic religion instead. God had already left the temple because of the Jews’ rejection of Christ; it was not left desolate by God during Rome’s conquest. Their time was up. The conquest happened because God had already abandoned His temple and leadership there. It was the Jews’ sins that left them desolate. Which might be why Jesus said, “Let him that readeth understand.”
It would be too late for anyone to flee once the Roman army reached the Temple Mount. There had already become a bloodbath in the city. The Christians who understood Christ’s warning fled a few years before it was destroyed. According to early Christian writers such as Eusebius of Caesarea, the Jerusalem Christians left the city before the final Roman siege and fled to Pella, east of the Jordan. He then continues by saying that after they had left, the war came upon the Jews and Jerusalem was destroyed. The war began in 66 AD, an internal Jewish war that weakened them and made them easier prey to the Romans. But one event happened right before this war. Cestius Gallus surrounded Jerusalem in AD 66 but unexpectedly withdrew after a short siege. The Jews pursued the retreating Romans and inflicted a major defeat at Beth Horon. This time period was when most christian-jews fled the city. Meaning the sign was never them entering the temple grounds, but standing on the grounds where Christ was crucified outside the city. The holy site for the Christians at the time was there, not where the sheep were slaughtered. The Roman general’s army approached from the north, capturing the northern suburb of Jerusalem. According to Josephus, he even began undermining or attacking the city walls. This means that the place Christ was crucified, and where the Ark lay underneath, was stepped upon by the Roman general and his soldiers. This is the place the Roman army “ought not stand”. And it is where they later stood, when they stepped into Christ church—making it a perfect double prophecy and stepping on the physical temple as well as the spiritual one later on.
When Hadrian refounded Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina, Jews were largely forbidden to enter the city or continue their sacrificial system. This ban also applied to Jewish Christians, since the Romans saw them as Jews. As a result, the original Jewish-Christian leadership in Jerusalem ended. Jerusalem’s church gradually became mostly Gentile within a Roman city. Much more changed than just the destruction of the temple. When Jesus warned of “the abomination of desolation, standing where it ought not,” he referred to Rome’s presence and interference in all things belonging to God—especially authority over God’s people, places, or worship.
Christ’s warning was a call to Christians to flee Jerusalem as Rome stepped on the grounds where Christ was crucified and where His blood was shed for humanity. By quoting Daniel, Jesus also reveals that Rome is the power warned against in that book. It was also a sign to Christians to flee when Roman leaders sat as a god in God’s earthly temple, trading with Christ’s blood; it was a call to His people to withdraw from the Roman political church to secluded areas (1.Cor.3:17). And so many did. Those who fled Jerusalem were saved from destruction. Those who fled the political church were saved from false teachings, apostasy, and eternal damnation. Those who stayed in both Jerusalem and the church were destroyed or left desolate.
Christ warns the churches.
In Christ’s message to the churches in the book of Revelation, He is clear that He follows truth and is not obligated to continue with an unfaithful church. There is no order of Peter where “keys” are handed from one ruler to another. The keys follow truth, for the keys are the truth. In no way does Chris stay in an unfaithful church that refuses to repent after receiving such a calling. This principle is seen in Christ’s message to the seven churches. To the church in Ephesus He says: “Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent” (Rev 2:5). The candlestick was a symbol of God’s spirit poured upon the church. The candlestick is the symbol of the church itself, and the oil a symbol of the Spirit. The priest places the oil, a symbol of Christ as High Priest ministering to the church. Despite the church being credited with “and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast labored”, this labor for Christ’s name will not save them from being left by God’s Spirit and for God to reject them as His church. Removing the candlestick is literally a symbol of them losing their election as His church and of being represented by Christ’s ministry.
Jesus had forewarned against the belief that good deeds in His name would acquit them for having false doctrines. “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” (Matt.7:22-23)
Works in His name could not purchase the right to violate His laws, which is what the word translated as iniquity is. The Greek word is anomia, which literally means “law -less”. The idea that anyone can worship and serve Him while setting aside God’s law is disputed by Christ. His accusation against this first church was: “I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love” (Rev.2:4). Paul explains that losing the love for the truth makes way for the “man of sin” to rule instead (2 Thess.2:9). Three things protect a church from deceptions. Love for the truth, love for Christ shown in obedience to Him, and love for others (1 John 2:4-5; 3:10)
And to the church of Pergamon Jesus warns: “I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam …So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.. Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth” (Rev.2:14-16). Here God does not just say He will move His spirit and reject this church; He says He will even fight them as if they were His enemies.
The Bible warns the churches first against the spirit of Bileam. Someone who brought a curse on God’s congregation by seducing them into idolatry through their interaction with pagan women. The second is the Nicolaitans, meaning followers of Nicolai. The only Nicolai in the bible is one of the church leaders who was a converted foreigner. The name means nikē / nikaō = victory, conquer laos = people . Both point to creators of Christian hierarchy or flirtation with pagan practices. God also warns the church of Jezebel, who through marriage with the King of Israel brought pagan rites and beliefs among God’s people. Here God warns clearly about God’s people mingling truth with error, and from rulers among them who lead them astray.
And to the church of Thyatira He warns: “I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication … And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death” (Rev.2:20-23)
Jesus is leaving no one to doubt if He would follow and protect a church and its members, if they do the heinous crimes that made him leave Israel in their day. The apostle Paul writes this to the church in Rome, saying: “Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee” (Rom 11:19-21).
The Christian church would not be acquitted if committing the same acts that caused Israel to be rejected.
Jezebel was a pagan queen who married a king of Israel. God declares that any of His church who would make alliances with pagan governments and practices, even choose them as leaders, would be led into a great tribulation and even the “death” of the church’s children. Meaning the church’s followers and descendants would perish.
Christ does not stay with an unfaithful people, despite them calling themselves a church and His spokespeople. Hanging up crosses and images of Jesus, or reciting the Lord’s Prayer, can not change anything. Jesus does not live in a statue, a cross, or a building where He can be visited or even controlled. He is not a prisoner in any church. He is where he is worshiped in truth and spirit. And He withdraws where He is not.
And so it was with the Roman Church. Their departure from truth, their union with Roman leaders, and pagan practices caused their desolation. In no way would Jesus have anyone believe that He had to be in a church called by His name. That He could be conjured like a spirit, forced to come when summoned. There is even such a story to reproach in the book of Acts. Where some men tried to use Christ’s name in that way: “Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. .. ” And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
“And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.” (Acts 19:13-16)
Christ’s name had no power in the mouth of unconverted, power-hungry men.
The Pope spoke great things, claiming to have been given a godlike position in the church. That Christ was the ruler on earth through His rule. And that no one could be saved but through His institution and doctrines. Making himself a grandiose deceiver, and his followers greatly deceived. Even dressing in white, demanding others who approach him to wear black, to bow before him, to crown him and build him a throne surrounded by cherubs. Acting out Christ’s role in His temple in their temple. The Pope walking among the candlesticks, as Jesus does in His temple.
Thinking doing all these things in Christ’s name ensured them a place in heaven, while Christ would one day say to them: “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity” (Matt.7:22)
John had warned about the idea that you can know Christ or be known by Christ simply by using His name. “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1Jn 2:3-4)
John, by this, prophesied the future Pope, bishops, and priests to be liars. Even their followers. The Pope did not just reject God’s law as valid; he changed it, and both influenced and forced others to break it. John’s point was that your Lord is manifested through whom you obey. And if it is not Christ but one who has taken Christ’s position, that man is your Lord and king, not Christ.
In this way the Pope, in the eyes of heaven, is not only playing God in his temple, but is an antichrist. The Pope’s rule among the Christians was lawless and written as a rebellion, even the sin of witchcraft, in the books of heaven. “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry” (1 Sam.15:23). Claiming that your law is over God’s law is “a mouth speaking great things”. Claiming you decided who will be saved and who is not is “a mouth speaking great things”. One who claims to have the right to trade with Christ’s blood is “a mouth speaking great things”. One who claims to have the power to forgive outside of God’s juridical system is playing God. One who changes God’s times to his own is playing God. Yet the Bible tells us this same power would proceed to succeed in afflicting God’s people: “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High ..and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (Dan 7:25)
Placing himself as a mediator of God’s salvation and confusing.
God’s focus is on this horn of Rome because of its devastating influence and long-lasting legacy. You could say God could have overthrown Papal Rome as he had with all the other nations who defiled him like he did to the Babylonian king. But the problem with Papal Rome, what even made Rome different from the other beasts, was its deceptive nature. The Babylonian king openly mocked God. But Papal Rome claimed to love God and to be loved by God. Just as God had allowed Satan to live and continue his works, God also had to let the Papacy live on. For only time would reveal its true nature, he had to let the beast expose itself. God had to patiently allow people to be enlightened so they could distinguish rightly. Satan’s rebellion in heaven had been so convincing that one third of God’s angels had believed Satan, and many others were uncertain if Satan’s accusation was in their best interest or not. Had God destroyed Satan right away, angels would have continued to question if he had been right and if God was in the wrong. Causing constant fear and doubt and removing peace and joy. The Papacy was not just blasphemous; it was also pious and charitable. Helping the poor with one hand, persecuting with the other, and praising God on one side, and cursing His faithful on the other side, and protecting them from other hostile nations on one side, while suppressing them with their own doctrines on the other. Papal Rome has left people confused even in our own time. Despite all their now known evil works, people still can’t believe God would see them as anything but Christian, considering all its charity and good works. For all they have converted to Christ around the world, for the faithful service of priests and the moral standards of its members. How bad can it be? Many good people were convinced God worked through the church. This was the Papacy’s strength, but also why God allowed it to continue.
Rome would destroy Jerusalem and scatter its people. From then on, no nation remained representing the Biblical God. That is, until Rome converted. Because the papacy was claimed to be the new nation under God on earth, it became the focus point of the prophecies. Here is one who claims to be God’s nation, God’s king, and who accused God’s faithful to be heretics, making the main battles from then on centered on the conflict between God’s people and Papal Rome—the conflict of who represents God and who are the real priests of the new covenant.
The bible later relates prophetically that many of God’s own people are intertwined with this political church and are deceived to do its sins. God’s churches were hit with confusion, and God was dealing with many sins committed in ignorance. The Bible was, for a long time, inaccessible to most people. Christ’s commented on such a situation:
“Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn” (Mat 13:24-30)
Papal Rome usurped power over the Christians, and had their traditional thinking, practices, and doctrine continue later on among the Protestants and evangelicals. The roots of God’s people had long been intermingled with the roots of the tares, so that to the human eye it was almost impossible to tell them apart. And even when you could, they were entangled. The most dangerous lies are those that are close to the truth. When Satan deceived Eve, he did not deny God’s supremacy or role; he did not say God was not the lawmaker; he just misquoted him, exaggerated His law, and made Eve see God differently.
Mother of the harlots reference that many church denominations have followed and been “born” from her and continue “her sins”. Among her children are the Orthodox church, protestant and Evangelical churches, who never continued the reform away from church traditions in conflict with God’s law and the Bible.
Even today, there appear to be both good and bad Christians in every church. Every church seemed to have something wrong with it and something right about it. In that way, many excuse the mistakes of the Papal church. All churches struggle with power structure and manipulation. Even the protestant churches had persecuted other believers once they gained power in their respective nations. Many Catholics had been victims too. And no church seems completely good, nor completely evil. They are using the same words from scripture, even quoting the same verse, yet understand it differently. Greatly different dogmas are all claimed to stem from the same Bible, chapter and verses. People who followed the papal lead were not all bad; some were ignorant and confused, thinking they were following God. The alternatives were not looking so good either. Truth has become a matter of opinion. And some even believe this confusing state of the Christian Church stems from leaving the Papal leadership rather than from the Papal leadership itself. But the real cause of the confusion in the church is the loss of its original foundation. And the culprit is the one who replaced that foundation with their own. Christ warned against this, saying that if the foundation is moved, it is like a house built on sand. The structure will collapse in storms (Matt.7:24-27). And this is the reason behind the fall of the Christian churches into confusion.
Those whom Rome deceived would not always understand until they were enlightened, and once they knew, they had to choose between traditions and being at peace with their family and community or becoming an outcast following God. All this confusion, lasting so long, had its origin in what Rome had done. The sins of “the horn” were too great to escape punishment, but because of the confusion, God had to take special care and deal with the conflict in stages. This made “the horn’s” specially dominating rule last for many more years than it ought to have.
Papal Rome became a great enemy of God; at the same time, God had to take into account that so many people believed they were obeying and honoring him through this institution and the institutions that arose from it.
“a time and times and the dividing of time”
“ they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time”. Here we are given a prophetic time period that helps show both the long duration of the horns and part of the last phase of the image in Daniel 2.
In the Bible, “a time” is the same as “a year”; “times” are two years, and “the dividing of time” is half a year, making the total time period 3.5 years. However, when God’s people are punished for unfaithfulness elsewhere, God says he gives them one year for one day. A biblical year in prophecy is usually 360 days. The ancient Hebrew calendar was lunar, consisting of 12 months of 30 days each.
360 + 360 x 2 + 180 = 1260 years
This time period comes back in the book of Revelation to help tie one of the knots between Daniel and Revelation and show the same power is mentioned both places.
The angel here tells Daniel that for 1260 years this religious-political figure that suppresses them will be especially powerful. During this period, the Pope was crowning kings and dictating religious observance in Europe. He ruthlessly persecuted Christians who refused to submit to his authority.
His time period goes from when the Ostrogoths were driven out of Rome in 538 AD, and the Pope could take his seat as a religious head and judge from that very city. Counting 1260 years from 538 AD leads us to 1798, when Napoleon’s general went to Rome and humiliated the Pope, took him captive, and declared a Roman Republic. This gave Papal Rome a wound that almost caused its end, and it was never able to exercise political power in the same way as before. An authoritative spell was broken.
After France challenged the authority of the Papacy, it continued to struggle to regain its strength and needed to get on France’s good side. Northern Europe had long resisted him after the spreading of printed Bibles in their native languages, which led to the Reformation. Before, priests had to preach in Latin, leaving many clueless about biblical teaching, and most people’s expression of religion was in traditions and superstition; as knowledge increased, the Pope and his priests were exposed by it. Many countries that previously had done the Pope’s bidding had now made their own governed churches. Then France declared it would reject Christianity altogether, and attacked both church and priests in France before taking the Pope prisoner in 1798.
After conflicting with the Pope back and forth, and wanting to control the church, Napoleon took the Papal States and placed them under the French Empire in 1809. General Berthier took the Pope to France, where he remained under guard until 1814. After Napoleon’s defeat, the Congress of Vienna restored the Papal States to the Pope, but nothing became as it had been. The Pope had lost its grip over much of Europe. In 1848 and 1849, European revolutions happened, and the Pope fled Rome to Gaeta. A Roman republic was once again proclaimed before France helped restore papal rule, and the Pope returned to Rome. During Italian unification, most of the Papal States were taken by the Kingdom of Sardinia. The Pope was left with only Rome and the area around it. In 1870, Italian troops entered Rome and captured it. The Popes are completely defeated but refuse to recognize the Kingdom of Italy’s authority over Rome, calling themselves the prisoners of the Vatican.
Despite their downfall and loss of political power, they came to an agreement with Italy through what is known as the Lateran Treaty, where they get independence of the Vatican City and payment for the loss of their other territory states in Italy. This made the Pope once again a political-religious figure, but with vastly less territory, becoming even the smallest country in the world. But with even more religious impact. The papacy has, since the world wars, been winning influence by portraying itself as pious but without changing its claims of being Christ’s representative and the mediator of God’s mercy. They still advocate their changes to God’s law and their paganist Christianity as the one and true church. They have placed themselves as the counselor of leaders and often invite religious leaders to the Vatican. The Papacy has positioned itself as an institution for peace, but a change of power does not change who they are or who they would be if again given the same power. It is the mentality, ideology, and intent that determine character, not whether they can do what they desire. If not so, then prisoners would all be incarcerated saints. We keep criminals in prison because of what they have done and what they are capable of doing if let out, not for what they do while in prison. Knowing what the Papacy did do before should have been enough to strip them of all power. Instead, they remain the most influential religious authority in the world.
God singled out the time period of 1260 years as the years when Papal Rome was, in particular, suppressing God’s people by sitting in a position to judge them as heretics from Rome. History confirms how they treated the Waldensians, the Cathars, Lollards, Hussites, jews and even other smaller groups of Christians who would not accept Papal authority.
To be judged
“But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end” (Dan 7:25-26)
The last part explains how this power, although it is only in a position to afflict His people for 1260 years especially, will continue to exist until Christ Himself takes control, and that it is one of the main antagonists whom Christ will judge with the plagues and finally bring to a destruction of its institution.
The judgments upon the Roman beast are described in more full detail in the book of Revelation to the apostle John.
The judgment of the “little horn” coming out of Rome begins even before Christ returns, and heaven urges His people to be “enlightened” and not do any of their sins, or they will perish alongside them when he punishes them. Christians must separate from the apostate churches in the end times before the plagues begin, and separate from the blasphemous leaders and their influence, or they will perish with their decivers (Revelation 18). Under no circumstances ought God’s people to commit the sins that brought forth the Papacy, to seek help from governmental powers, and use that power to punish those who do not do their bidding or to force Christ’s kingdom upon others. Nor are they allowed to dictate or enforce religious laws on God’s behalf.
Why Papal Rome?
Although there are many atheist and pagan kingdoms and rulers in the world, God points the finger especially to the Roman Pontiff because he is the greatest threat to His people. But also because his claims place him at the forefront of the war against God. An imposter who ran off with the majority of God’s children. Even 99.5 % of all Christians today still follow his law and traditions over the Bible. 99.5% of Christians follow his changed times and law. That is no small number, and no small matter for God. In addition, billions of Christians over many centuries will be lost because of this one institution’s influence. Wars are still fought, bombs are still dropping, because of the religious confusion this institution has brought upon the world.
The Papal church survived for centuries by intermingling its roots with honest believers, making it difficult to separate the two. Unless this entanglement is undone, Christ will have to reject them at His coming.
Papal Rome’s rise was just like Babylon, directly a result of a falling away in the church. Just like Rome became a curse on Israel, papal Rome became a curse to God’s people.
Paul prophecies about the roman pontiff: “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ” (1.Thess.2:3-4)
He explains that the leader positioning himself as a God among God’s people, who are God’s earthly temple, happened as a result of the Christians falling away from truth. It did not begin with the leader; it began with them loving lies over the truth.
“For the mystery of lawlessness doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2Th 2:7-12).
Here Paul explains the same power and same destruction that is said to happen to the little horn growing out of the Roman beast in Daniel 7—the focus of God’s wrath. But we also learn that the reason he even came about was that a large part of the Christians sought it, wanted it, and even desired it to be true. They chose this mediator and leader.
The same dance twice
Rome and God’s people have done the same dance more than once.
It all comes back to their first interaction with each other. First, the Jews misunderstood the prophecies and sought to create a pact with Rome to gain influence. Then they asked Rome to judge in their affairs, of who should be their leader, leading them to become a client kingdom under Rome. Rome then chose their kings. Then further internal strife and asking for Rome to act once again led them to end up under Rome’s administration. Then they chose a murderer and Cecear over their own king to maintain their own influence over the people. Before realizing they were now trapped by the same power they had asked for help, they began to fight it, only to lose, and their temple was taken down and a pagan god placed there instead.
The Christian church followed a similar pattern. After facing persecution, Christians sought help from Roman authorities, hoping to win them to their side. This led Rome to take a leading position in the church—a role that was even initially welcomed. As divisions arose among Christians, some appealed to Rome for support in theological disputes and for their leaders, and Rome responded by appointing their leader: the Pope.
The majority of Christians then chose to follow the Roman pontiff over Christ to gain political and religious power. When left with the choice to follow Christ and suffer persecution, they chose a murderer and a Roman pontiff. They left truth to serve a lie. Then they became trapped under a series of Popes, for better and worse, with no escape. Rebelling meant being ostracized, fought, exhausted, and destroyed.
But it was the Christians’ falling away and their flirtation with Roman leaders that led to this doctrinal disaster. Yet they chose compromise over purity of faith.
The jews had rejected Christ in the hope of a leader who would give them political power and independence instead. To that Christ said: “Your house is left unto you desolate”. (Matt.23:38)
When the Christian church rejected the teachings of Christ to become a political church, it followed in Judah’s footsteps. They chose a political messiah over a messiah who called them sinners in need of repentance. They had rejected Christ’s spiritual kingdom for an earthly physical kingdom. And the result was “the abomination that leads to desolation”.
When Judah tried to force Jesus to proclaim Himself as king, they lost sight of Him: “When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone” (Joh 6:15)
The reason is that Christ has said when his coming will be. Not among rebellious jews who had misunderstood His mission. Not among the horns of Rome, not as a horn coming out of the beast of Rome. Christ rejected his crowning because they wanted to use him to advance their agenda. Christ could not go with them there. It was they who had to convert to him and patiently wait for his time, when their hearts were cleansed, and they understood and knew what it truly means to be part of a kingdom of God.
Even the disciples were told by Christ that how and when His physical coming is manifest is none of their business or task. “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power” (Acts 1:6-7).
This ideology did not sit well with the Jews at that time. The Jews gaining power over Rome in their current state would not have made them better; it would have made them ruthless. While the Jews were unsuccessful in making Jesus overthrow the Romans, the Christians later forced it under the banner of His name. In Christ’s name they united church and the Roman state.
The Christians crowned a statue, a name, an idea of Jesus. They wanted Christ to have His kingdom begin here on earth through their leadership. But Christ said his kingdom is not of this world; it begins in the heart spiritually and comes outside of the governance of this earth at Christ’s second coming. Not before. Anything before, Jesus said, is a deception. Christ warns His people of following any kingdom said to be His before His time.
It was falling away from the principles and truth that Christ had proclaimed that led to the rise of Papal Rome. And Christ was not there with them; rather, He had departed the political church and was with those who were considered the outcasts and the problem. Christ, with His faithful, was led outside the gates once again. The principles of Christ were crucified for the sake of power and security.
Those who remained faithful also had to endure these harsh conditions. Just as Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, Azariah, and Ezekiel were taken captive because of their people’s sins, faithful Christians found themselves trapped in lands ruled by a corrupt state-church, struggling to remain loyal to God. Both groups saw God’s temple desecrated—physically and spiritually. The faithful in Babylon and Medo-Persia faced ovens and lions’ dens, not for their own sins but because of the sins of their nation. Similarly, during Papal Rome, faithful Christians were burned at the stake or tortured—not for their own wrongdoing, but because of the church’s union with state power, leaving them in a world they could not escape.
The focus on Rome until the end of time is similar to how God chose to center the Bible on the conflicts His people faced in the past. These struggles are meant to serve as examples for anyone seeking to follow Him. In the same way, the conflict between God’s faithful and Papal Rome is both an example and a lesson for all Christians. Understanding this conflict remains relevant everywhere, since even the Papal version of Christianity has spread worldwide. Rome and Europe have become the center stage of the conflict. God instructs His people to pay attention to how the focus shifts from the Roman beast to the blasphemous horn that grows out of it, and to all its dealings with God’s people. The warning is to keep watching until it receives its judgment (Dan. 7:11). We were never to take our eyes away from Rome as the enemy of God.
Vision from Judah to the churches
Although the first four beasts are all connected to the Jewish nation, the change from who God’s people are is explained elsewhere in the book of Daniel.
When Jerusalem was destroyed the first time, the focus in the bible shifts to where God’s people are and their challenges there: Babylon and Medo-Persia. When Jerusalem is reinstated, the focus goes back to Jerusalem. When Rome destroys Jerusalem, the focus goes to where God’s people now are. The focus shifts to the Judean-Christians, as the vision follows the faithful and not the Jews who rejected Christ.
During the end phase of the image in Daniel 2, the feet part clay and part iron; Jerusalem is no longer the center of attention, for God’s people are at this time scattered and in large numbers elsewhere. And so Jesus explains that when He returns, He will gather His people from all ends of the earth, showing they remain scattered until the end.
Many call the idea that God’s focus goes from the Jewish people to the Christians as displacement theory. However, the New Testament is clear that the remnant of Israel is the faithful Christian church. Many forget that it was founded upon Jewish converts, and so the church was to be a continuation of Israel, not another people. It’s theologians that have separated the two. Simply, God continued with the jews who were faithful, and the pagan converts added to them through conversion, forming them as one body, making up the remnant of Israel. And so there is no replacement in the true church, only God following the faithful among them rather than the unfaithful. This is the case throughout the Bible whenever a remnant is mentioned. God does not choose all of Abraham’s children; He chose Isaac. And from Isaac, only one brother, the faithful one, while the other is rejected. So it continues when God, after the Babylonian captivity, chose a remnant among Judah and a few from the other tribes and let all the others go. Then, as Christ comes, God continues with the faithful jews and rejects the others. This is even prophesied in Daniel 9, where Daniel learns that not just his people, but Jerusalem, is on probation and will be rejected, if not converted, after the Messiah comes. Meaning Jerusalem itself is rejected as the center of worship and thereby also the center of attention.
Replacement theory would be to say God chose the unfaithful, which would, if true, also change the past. If heritage was more important than principle, then he chose Ishmael over Isaac, Esau over Jacob, Ephraim over Judah, and the Pharisees over the Jewish followers of Christ. But this is not how God works. Did the converts from paganism make the Christian movement less Israel? The Bible also rejects this idea. Converts were allowed to become part of Israel in the past as well. And even in King David and Christ’s family tree, we find what was likely a Canaanite convert, Tamar. A convert from Jericho, Rahab, and a Moabite convert in Ruth. They all became part of Israel’s royal line upon their union; their children were no less of Israel. So was the case with the faithful converts to the Judean-Christian congregation; they became fully part of God’s Israel and part of the remnant God continued with.
As Paul argues and explains in all his letters. So, God follows the suppressors of his people, not the suppressors of the people who have rejected him. And in the beginning of the image shown, that suppressor is Babylon, then it is Medo-Persia, then it is Greece and its divisions, then it is Rome, and then it is Papal Rome and Europe.
And this is why the Papal horn of Rome is the center of the conflict from its uprising till Christ fights and destroys him.
Jesus had said beforetime: “ Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. (Joh 4:21-23)
Jesus made it clear that Jerusalem would not be the center of worship in the future, but truth and spirit would be.
The time The prophet Daniel is first presented with Rome as God reveals to him the coming empires and later also the time for both Christ’s first and second coming. From Daniel’s time, they would have to endure other empires that would have a great impact on them before Rome came on the scene. By telling about these empires in advance, God allowed His people to see that He knew world events, knew everything that would happen to them, and that they should not be afraid. He had seen the world’s history before it had even happened, all the way up to that final day.
The first vision of the coming empires is given to the Babylonian leader himself. He had subdued Jerusalem; many had been taken captive. Among the first captives was Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. To understand his vision, he had to have it explained by a royal descendant from Jerusalem. In this way, God humbled the Babylonian king’s triumph.
His dream contained an image and was a message to both the pagan leader and God’s people. When Jerusalem was subdued Babylon, a great change was taking place on the world stage. God would no longer rule among men through an earthly kingdom. His throne—the Ark of the Covenant—was to be removed and never returned to the people after their return. No Shekinah glory came to dwell in the second temple once it was built. The Jewish people would not remain independent, and God’s people would no longer be a military power. God’s people would be suppressed under dominant world powers until the end of time—a direct consequence of Israel’s unfaithfulness. Many had been faithful, but even their destiny in the world was negatively affected because of the unfaithful among them. Sin affects not only those who commit it; it also impacts both the good and the bad. They had “killed the prophets, and stoned them which are sent” to them, making it impossible for God to lead them as a people (Matt. 23:37). Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah themselves suffered for the decisions of their people. However, they are also examples of how God cares for His faithful even under worldly and pagan oppression. So, while showing the long period during which God would not have an earthly kingdom, these men testified that God was still willing to move on kings for their sake. These rulers could only go so far before God would bring them down for His people’s sake. They were never abandoned, even though they would live as strangers in many lands under many rulers. In part, this is what Daniel’s vision shows: that God knows who will put pressure on them and how God and His people can stay closely connected through these world events.
The Image
God explained the change of scene with an image of a man composed of different metals, each considered valuable in man’s eyes. In the Bible, an image made of metal that people adored and obeyed was an idol. In those days, pagans and even Israel worshiped gods through images and statues. It was forbidden by God’s law, and especially the second commandment. Showing a metallic human image to represent the different empires was perhaps God’s way of telling them that they had chosen to idolize man over God. The religion of men over the truth. Just as Eve had been deceived by the statement that “ye shall be as gods” to defy God’s law, so will men who reject God’s authority wish to rule as gods themselves. They trust their own understanding of “good and evil” over God’s word (Gen.3:5). Human religious authority that is not in union with God will always be idol worship- even witchcraft: “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry” (1 Sam.15:23)
God had criticized Israel and Judah for seeking support and alliance with the pagan nations, even calling it harlotry. Now pagan powers whom they had trusted before their very own God would rule over them.
The statue shown to Nebuchadnezzar was an idol-image of human empires. Powers playing God. Powers dictating people’s conscience and religion. But also powers who manage law and order. Powers that need to be respected and tolerated, yet not in religious matters.
The vision of the present and future is first given to the Babylonian king, him being the head of the idol. God lets him know that what he has begun others will continue, but that they do not defeat him. He rules from heaven and is over any earthly ruler (Dan.4:32). God’s kingdom will rise again, and the image Nebuchadnezzar has set up will one day fall.
Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed the temple and suppressed the people, but he or God’s people was not allowed to think he had won the greater battle. God was not defeated or suppressed. And in His own time, He would restore His kingdom.
Nebuchadnezzar was unable to interpret his dream but understood it was a divine revelation, leaving him with a heavy sense of doom. This was intended by God, so that one of His people could reveal that the vision was from God and not from Babylon’s own gods. If any of the king’s own wise men had been able to explain the dream, the interpretation would have been corrupted, and God’s people would not have received it. By placing King Nebuchadnezzar in a position where he had to hear the interpretation from a prince of Jerusalem, God made it clear which God would one day destroy the human empire.
God was humbling the king of Babylon but also comforting His people, assuring them that the oppression that had begun would one day be destroyed. However, the timeline was much longer than any of them could have guessed or imagined.
According to the interpretation given to Daniel in a vision, the head represented the Babylonian Empire.
The chest is of silver and represents the Medo-Persian Empire that would bring the Babylonian Empire down.
The bronze skirt represents the Greek Empire, which would defeat the Persian Empire.
The iron legs represent the Roman Empire, which would take down the Greek Empire bit by bit until it stood as the greatest of them all.
The feet, part iron and part clay, represent the Roman Empire divided. These are the European tribal kingdoms that were once a part of Rome.
And as it is explained, in the days of their rule, God will destroy them and establish his own. This is shown when a rock, “a stone cut out without hands,” hits the feet, causing the whole statue to collapse. The head or the chest does not collapse before the feet are stricken, showing that a suppression begun by Babylon is not fully ended until that day. The statue represents a clean timeline leading up to Christ’s second coming. The stone becoming a mountain is the Kingdom of Christ.
“Was terrible”
The image representing these kingdoms of men “whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible” shows how man rules by inducing both people’s admiration and fear. It also depicts an image that imitates God’s glory and power. However, in comparison, God’s power also lies in His great love and mercy. Man has little mercy to offer. God can follow up on His promises, restore, and even recreate, deserving people’s admiration and fear, while human governments act terrifyingly to ensure their own survival.
When David had sinned against God and the nation and understood God would punish him, upon choosing his punishment, “David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man” (1.Ch.21:13)
God then sent a plague upon the land, but just as David had predicted, God cut it short in mercy.
When the plague was still heavy on the people, and David saw the destroying angel standing over the city, he pleaded with God, and God told him to build an altar in the “threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite” (1.Ch.21:18) “And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.
And the LORD commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof” (1Ch 21:26-27)
This was the very place the temple of God was later constructed. When David had said it would be better to fall in God’s hands because of His mercy, it was fulfilled as his faith was. The punishment weighed heavily, but God’s mercy indeed mitigated it. The sacrifice was a symbol of Christ’s death for humanity, and how He could bring about peace between the sinner and God.
Nebuchadnezzar sees the image in his dream as “dreadful”, yet God would, in the middle of these kingdoms, send Christ to redeem His people. Had they received him, their sins would have been blotted out and the falling into “the hand of man” would be shortened by the sacrifice of God. But as God’s people continued the rebellion, the vision was certain and would not change; God’s people would remain suppressed by earthly governments until Christ’s second coming.
The rule of man playing God will, in part, show strategic mercy from time to time, but in the end, as the book of Revelation shows us, they will show no mercy at all upon God’s people in the end. Even hindering them from buying and selling, even killing them, if they do not obey the government in religious matters. And God will meet their privation of mercy towards His people with the removal of His mercy from them.
“He removeth kings”
When God had revealed the same dream Nebkadnezzar had to Daniel in a vision, he exclaimed: “Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings…” (Dan 2:20-21)
Although God allows man to subdue his people, He does not abandon them. God has a time limit for each ruler. By replacing the kings, God also changes the climate of these worldly empires. By giving the empires their natural enemies, the pressure is taken off God’s people when it is too great for them to bear. He would also ensure they were always able to
Babylon would not let Israel go to rebuild the city or temple. In the midst of their suppression, God allows another empire to grow strong, challenge Babylon, conquer it, and cause Israel to return to the land.
God told the Babylonian king he would be brought down that same night and made sure people understood that heaven can bring down any earthly king.
Although not granted independence and remaining under the Medo-Persian ruler, they had room to breathe. Medo-Persia allowed them to return and rebuild the temple and the walls. This gave them a feeling of independence and hope under the suppression.
Then God allowed the Greeks to bring down the Persian Empire. However, Jerusalem continued to struggle under the Greek empires around them. The Seleucid king would come and desecrate their temple and humiliate them. The conflicts between the southern and northern Greek empires exhausted God’s people.
Then God allowed Rome to bring these kingdoms down. Jerusalem was first a Roman province but later ended in war with God’s people. When Rome began heavily suppressing God’s people, God made sure Rome fell as well.
The final stage of the image suppressing God’s people was the feet, representing a divided Rome—its strength broken and mixed with clay. Although this did not end the suppression, it would at times bring temporary relief to God’s people and provide places for them to worship in peace. “And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken” (Dan 2:42)
With the message, God tells Daniel that the kings of the world are not all-powerful; God will interfere when necessary. He has taken away his earthly kingdom, but would continue to work from His throne in heaven to protect and help His people during their suppression and until He would free them. His people were not defenseless, and they could pray for deliverance.
The Image as a test
Nebuchadnezzar, although intimidated by his own dream and its interpretation, defied God by making a large physical image, the whole image clothed with gold. In the dream, only the head was of gold, but now, to show his kingdom as invincible and eternal, Nebuchadnezzar made a golden image into a test of loyalty to the empire and to himself. The image, if using the Neo-Babylonian cubit, would be 30 meters high (60 cubits) and 3 meters wide (6 cubits).
“Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages…whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace” (Dan.3:2-4 & 6)
Nebukadnezzar had not been told which kingdom would be next; to be sure, he called everyone to bow to an image representing Babylonian authority and to show allegiance to its continued and eternal existence. Perhaps he had hoped to single out a potential uprising. But instead, three Jewish men, his own elected leaders, were those who refused to bow down. They were “set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego” (Dan.3:12)
Nebukadnezzar immediately called for them and said: “Do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?” (Dan.3:14) He then gives them one more chance to comply, but they refuse his offer and remain faithful to the very God that had told Nebukadnezzar his kingdom would one day fall.
The king got very angry and had them thrown into the furnace, where God delivered them, showing a powerful move unlike any other. The Son of God walked with them, and none of the men were hurt or even burnt while in the furnace. This reminds the Babylonian king of the same God who would one day rule. The story is a mirror of the end-time conflict, in which an image is set up by “a beast,” which also demands loyalty to a governmental religious decree. At that time Jesus will come to deliver His faithful once again.
The conflict in the end times and the setting up of Nebuchadnezzar’s image mirror each other. They both demand loyalty to an earthly kingdom that defies the kingdom of God and puts the world to a test of loyalty. The image was, then and in Revelation, a combination of state power and religion. Through this image, the only way to show loyalty to the state was to also “serve the gods” of it. But also to give a religious veneration to a symbol of state power.
The measurement for Nekukandezzar was also a defiance of the God who had given him the vision. In Babylonian culture, the number 60 was the sacred number of the sky god Anu. He was considered the one from whom all the other Babylonian gods came. In good Neo-Babylonian style, likely all the Babylonian gods were represented upon the image.
The four beasts of the image
Later, Daniel sees these empires shown in the great image once more, now as individual beasts, with more detail about their identities, times, and destinies. He receives this follow-up vision during the last king of Babylon’s rule. God’s people were at that time eagerly and desperately longing for the end of their captivity. But they were not to expect complete freedom.
The Great Sea
“Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea” (Dan 7:2)
Here we see a geographic point of the coming empires to the great sea, with God’s land in the center, being the Mediterranean Sea. Although not all the empires lie by the sea, they all conquer God’s land to claim the power of this sea. The Mediterranean is not the largest ocean, but it was the most influential, as all the great early civilizations used it. It was the border sea of the three tribes of Noah. But also the east coast, the border of the land of God’s people. In Revelation, the sea is a metaphor for the center of world authority: “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues” (Rev 17:15). Wind in the bible is a symbol for conflict and strife (Rev.7:1).
The beasts emerge from conflict over the same territories.
For Babylon, taking the cities of the Levant meant controlling lucrative maritime trade. Being a city between two rivers, extending their empire to the sea was important to become great. And not until they did could they be the powerful empire they became. The cities and kingdoms there were often a good source of tax and tribute. Controlling Syria and the Levant created a buffer against Egypt, Babylon’s great rival. And it provided them with security and important trade routes.
For Medo-Persia, another nation that did not initially lie at the Mediterranean, taking the territory at its coast connected Persia to the richest trade networks of the ancient world. Control of ports meant access to taxes and commerce. By controlling Phoenicia, Palestine, Egypt, and Asia Minor, they could prevent enemies from using the coast to attack the empire. The empires they then feared could challenge them were all to the west of them. Not being a naval power itself, it relied on connecting to those who were. Holding the Mediterranean coast gave Persia bases and fleets to invade Greece under kings like Darius I and Xerxes I.
The Babylonian Empire took control of the eastern Mediterranean to control trade and secure its borders.
The Medo-Persian Empire took even more land along the Mediterranean coast than Babylon.
For Greece and Alexander the Great, the Mediterranean was their home. Before invading the Persian heartland, he secured the eastern Mediterranean coast, depriving the Persian navy of its bases by taking cities such as Tyre, Sidon, and Gaza. Holding the Levant also protected his route to Egypt and prevented Persian counterattacks. The Mediterranean coast became the western backbone of an empire stretching from Greece to India. A famous example is the siege of Tyre (332 BC). Alexander spent months capturing the island city because, as long as Tyre remained in Persian hands, it was a major naval base threatening his campaign. So, like Babylon and Persia, Alexander valued the Mediterranean for trade, wealth, and security.
When the Greek Empire divided, the two strongest remaining empires constantly struggled for power along the coast. The southern Ptolemaic Kingdom sought to protect Egypt, dominate trade, and hold Cyprus, Phoenician ports, and, frequently, Coele-Syria, and maintained a strong navy.
The Greek empire had even greater territories but divided them between four generals. In addition to this territory, the Greeks colonized the west Mediterranean, in what we today call Italy, Spain, France, and Ukraine.
The north-eastern Seleucid Empire secured the Mediterranean coast for trade, taxation, and access to the sea from Mesopotamia.
Their greatest rivalry was over Coele-Syria (roughly modern Israel, Lebanon, and southern Syria), because it connected Egypt to Asia, had wealthy cities and ports, controlled the main trade and military routes, and served as a buffer against invasion. This rivalry led to the Syrian Wars (six major wars, c. 274–168 BC). Or, as the Bible calls it later in Daniel chapter 11, the conflicts between the King of the South and the King of the North, leaving God’s people in the middle of this conflict.
For Rome, the Mediterranean became the center of its entire empire. At first, Rome was simply one city in central Italy, but as it expanded, controlling the Mediterranean became essential for its survival and prosperity. Although Rome was small and weak at the beginning, as it began expanding its territory, the turning point came with the Punic Wars against Carthage. Rome realized that whoever controlled the Mediterranean controlled everything. By defeating Carthage and later the Hellenistic kingdoms, Rome became the dominant Mediterranean power. It expanded eastward into Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt. The Mediterranean became the empire’s highway. Sea transport was far faster and cheaper than roads. Once Rome had brought down the Ptolemaic Kingdom in Egypt, it became the main source of grain to the Roman cities and even the capital. The Romans called the sea: Mare Nostrum — “Our Sea.”
Rome was the first to control the entire coastline of the Mediterranean Sea.
Rome was later divided between European tribes.
Babylon wanted access to the Mediterranean, which is why they secured Judea and Jerusalem.
Persia wanted to control its eastern coast, which is also why they took God’s land.
Alexander conquered it to destroy Persia and unite his empire, which is why he took God’s land.
The Ptolemies and Seleucids fought over its eastern gateway, both wanting God’s land because of its placement.
Rome eventually enclosed the entire Mediterranean, making it the economic, military, and administrative heart of the empire. This made it impossible for God’s land to escape its future as a Roman province.
When Rome was divided, so was the power over the sea. However, the divided empire would continue to strive for the territories east of the Mediterranean in pursuit of trade superiority, access to Asia, and control over religious sites, which had also become matters of trade and power. It remained the center desired up until our own time, where the divided kingdoms still roam this very sea and whose access remains the cause of wars. When control of the eastern Mediterranean shifted to the Ottomans, it prompted Western European powers to look to the Atlantic and expand there. But the desire was constantly to bring the Ottoman Empire down and reclaim the territories. A part of history the Bible deals with, and what happens when they succeed, as we will see when we look into every detail of the prophecies.
It’s important to note that the center of the coming kingdoms in Daniel 7 is not the geographical point of Babylon in Iraq, but the sea and its relevance to God’s people and their suppressors until the very end of time.
The verse says, “and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea,” explaining that the strife does not come from simply one geographical point but from several: east, north, south, and west, which is consistent with what we do see. Babylon and Medo-Persia came from the east to strive for the sea; Greece came from the west; its divided kingdom came from all directions, north, west, south, and east. And Rome came from the west. The focus point is they “strove upon the great sea”. The double meaning being wars between “peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues” and the geographic center of the conflict itself.
A theme the Bible brings us full circle to in the book of Revelation, where the fall of Babylon is said to be the fall of the trading network on the sea. Being that Babylon became ruins many tens of centuries before, it is, of course, speaking of the end of the feet of the image, of which Babylon was said to have been the head.
“And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning…Standing afar off for the fear of her torment … And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more … For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off …And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate” (Rev.18:9-18)
Giving us a hint that the source of its power is in trade, in controlling trade, and its collapse losing that power. Although in the end times “Babylon” is on all seas, it points back to the time when the place to be was around the Mediterranean.
FOUR BEASTS:
“And four great beasts came up from the sea…” (Dan 7:3)
God does not give us room to misunderstand the meaning of the beasts. The angel gives us the interpretation: “These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth” (Dan.7:17) And: “The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom” (Dan.7:23) And about the end of the beast’s rule: “the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom…” (Dan.7:18) making no mistake that a beast is a metaphor for a kingdom, a territorial dominion or as we also call it today, a government.
In the first vision, the same empires are body parts of an image of a man, pointing to idol worship and to how it is manifested through their governments. In the past, the leaders all claimed to either represent a god or to be a god on earth. That is consistently what all of the empires God shows did. They make their government into an idol. In the next vision, God reveals the kingdoms as beasts. God does not call humans animals, but he likens their governmental institution to beasts.
God may do this for several reasons. It shows how the specific human behavior through these empires is seen from heaven. Just like worshiping God makes you adopt His values, so is the case with pagan gods.
All the beasts God compares the earthly empires to are territorial and carnivorous. They are dominant in their territories; they act on impulse and instinct for their own survival – they don’t show pity or mercy if they are under threat. When a beast feels fear, it attacks; it attacks in anticipation or out of worry, without being attacked first. A carnivore is selfish in nature.
Man was created in the image of God. Still, when rejecting God’s rule and trying to be gods themselves by creating their own laws, judging by them, and demanding worship, they began to exhibit the behavior of lower creatures.Many went from being in the likeness of God in character and purpose to becoming in the likeness of a beast’s character. Man was called to rule over the beasts, but here we are presented with beasts ruling over man (Gen 1:28; 9:2). In the portrayal of the suppressing powers as beasts, God gives us an insight into His heart for His people and their situation. Everything He had wanted to do for and with them was ruined by their distrust and desire to resemble other nations. And so, ruled by other nations is what they ended up with instead. His desire to restore and save them all lies in Him comparing these empires with beasts.
Humans do not always know their own good, and we often make decisions we think will give us good things and help us prosper, only to end up stuck in a spiral of negative fallout and suppression. In a moment of anger, jealousy, and a desire to be something great in the world, the leaders of Judah said to Pilate: not Jesus “but Barabbas” and “We have no king but Caesar” (Mat 27:21, Mark 15:11, John 19:15). Choosing a murderer and even a pagan king over their creator. The man who had healed their illnesses and brought them dignity as human beings was rejected because they desired worldly glory. Often we cheaply sell what is of true value for materials that perish, like gold, silver, bronze, iron, and even clay. This degrades us and God’s purpose for us. Giving in to passion or ruling over our passions determines our destiny. Either we become like beasts, or we are restored to the image of God.
Territorial beasts exhibit behavior guaranteed to lead to constant strife. By rejecting God, God’s people would be suppressed by such beasts. God consistently uses beast imagery to depict governmental superpowers in the New Testament book of Revelation. This brings them to that great final conflict, with man having to choose between the name and seal of God or “the mark of the Beast” and “the image of the beast”. As the world is coming to its end, God extends His arms one last time for humanity to choose Him as their King before all the earthly kingdoms perish. But the Bible tells us even then, people, by their great desire for prosperity and the things of this world, out of fear of standing out, will close their eyes to their own danger and their own end and optimistically seek salvation through deprived leaders of a deprived government.
Who are the four beasts?
“And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another” (Dan 7:3). Although the first vision given to Daniel was an image of a man and all the empires shown as body parts from head to toe, in the second vision Daniel sees them as diverse from one another. Although they all similarly represent the kingdom of man and continue Babylon’s behavior and conduct, they are not the same power, culture, or religion. They are “diverse one from another”. Even though Greece and Rome shared similar cultures and religions, they differed in what they did and who they were. The Babylonian religion, although different, shared the same foundational beliefs. The elements of nature represent or are the gods. No power of the four was the same. However, their desires for world superiority were driven by the same passions. Just as a lion, bear, and leopard are very different, they all share the same main behavioral traits.
The first three beasts are identified by name in other chapters in Daniel. Jesus identifies the final beast as Rome by referring to the book of Daniel, giving us a biblical interpretation of the identity of all four kingdoms. The first three beasts are given equal time and amount of description, while the fourth beast is explained in much more detail. This matches the length of their rule: the fourth beast would dominate for longer than all the other three combined. Its crimes would be greater and more severe, and it would interfere with God’s people for a much longer time. The reason the divided kingdom of the fourth beast takes so long to fall is a fascinating subject we will explore in another chapter.
When Daniel received the vision of the four beasts, the Babylonian empire was in its final stage and not much of a future threat in the world scene; the two next empires, the Medo-Persian and Greek, would be more dominant in the future, but on the bigger time scale, their time too was small compared to the coming fourth.
The Neo-Babylonian Empire lasted almost 90 years (626–539 BC)
The Medo-Persian Empire lasted over two hundred years (550–330 BC)
Alexander’s united empire lasted only a little over a decade (336–323 BC), but the Greek divisions continued for even longer than the Medo-Persian ones. With a focus on the two strongest Greek kingdoms that lasted the longest, the Seleucid Empire lasted 249 years (312–63 BC), and the Ptolemaic Kingdom lasted 275 years (305–30 BC).
In comparison, the Roman Empire itself lasted over 500 years (27 BC – AD 476) and, if counting from when Rome began suppressing God’s people, as the Bible does, in 63 BC, even longer. Its divided remnant kingdoms (horns) are still among the greatest powers then and till today. Which then makes the Roman beast span in relevance for well over 2000 years. Making it, therefore, the main focus of the vision of the fourth beast and its horns. And mostly the only focus of Revelation, a book written during the Roman Empire’s peak. As this beast would affect more of God’s people for the longest time.
Neo-Babylonian Empire: 87 years
Medo-Persian (Achaemenid) Empire: 220 years
Alexander’s Empire: 13 years
Seleucid Empire: 249 years
Ptolemaic Kingdom: 275 years
Roman Empire (West): 503 years; From Rome took Jerusalem: 538 years.
THE LION: BABYLON
Dan 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
The first beast, Babylon, is the lion, the king of beasts, strong and dominant. In the vision, it has eagle’s wings, making it even a greater threat, showing superior strength and speed. The lion is a superior carnivore on the ground, but the eagle is a superior carnivore of the air. Combining the two makes a superior beast.
By choosing the symbol of a lion, God was not trying to keep a secret who this beast was. The lion was an adored Babylonian symbol and was depicted all along the processional street leading to the city gate. They greatly admired the animal. Babylon itself loved using winged animals as protective or divine creatures. Their divine protector, Lamassu, a continuation of the ancient Sumerian goddess, was sometimes a winged bull and other times a winged lion.
Lions decorated the entryway to Babylon. Image is from Pergamon museum.
Their main goddess, Ishtar, was associated with the lion. Ishtar’s cult was central to the Babylonians. She was worshiped as the Mistress of Heaven, protector of the city, and a goddess whose favor was sought for both fertility and military success.
In the vision given to Daniel, he sees this powerful creature change to a less frightening being. The lion ends up standing upright like a human, showing that Babylon’s decline and fall occurred in its weakest state. Anatomically, a lion becomes less stable and less powerful overall when it stands. A “man’s heart” shows a shift of the kingdom’s driving force, from an unpredictable territorial beast to a man following his heart’s pursuits.
As the Bible explains the downfall of Babylon in chapter five, we see its king living in luxury, feasting and drinking while praising his wealth and the conquests of the former king, and carelessly mocking God, unaware that the Medo-Persian alliance was right outside the walls of the city, ready to bring it down. A lion would never sleep under threat. Humans fully do. And so Babylon, by God’s design, was brought down while it was at its most careless pleasure-seeking state. Their fall was not tied to being overpowered and exhausted by countless wars, as with other empires. Rather, their instability stemmed from internal conflicts over politics, festivals, and religion. Then, in one night, the city fell prey to another empire.
Babylon would later be destroyed and, by God’s prophecy, would never be an inhabited city again; the Babylon mentioned in Revelation refers to the new Babylon, the final beast and its horns. And in the days of these kingdoms Christ would return, and Christ explains the human condition at that time fairly similar to that of Babylon’s final days. “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Luk 17:26-27)
Even God’s own fallen-away people will behave similarly unprepared for the event: “But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of…” (Mat 24:48-50)
The Babylon of the end times is described to have caused their allies to be: “waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies” (Rev.18:3)
The night of Babylon’s fall and the fall of the last “Babylon” in Revelation are strongly connected and are images of each other.
For all the deaths Babylon was responsible for, for all the bloodshed and wars. For the destruction of God’s temple and city – God decided that Babylon had to be punished. About Babylon He said: “I was wroth with my people… I gave them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.” (Isaiah 47:6)
God had used Babylon to discipline Judah, but Babylon exceeded its commission by showing no mercy. “And I will render unto Babylon… all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.” (Jeremiah 51:24)
The two main reasons God brought Babylon down were to punish them for their war crimes, but also because they, instead of allowing the captives of Judah and Israel to return to their land and rebuild the temple, desecrated the temple items instead. To bring His people back to the land, He had to raise a ruler that could be worked on. That ruler was Cyrus.
THE BEAR
Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
A bear, with its stable feet and gait, is unlike the lion and even more fearful when it stands on its feet.
The Cyrus Cylinder is an ancient artifact containing an inscription detailing the policies of Cyrus the Great following his conquest of Babylon in 539 BCE. From this seal we learn some of his strategies. As any great leader before and after, the Medo-Persian leader Cyrus saw himself, or at least presented himself, as a helper during his conquest. Cyrus presented himself as chosen by the Babylonian god Marduk to bring relief to the Babylonian people.
After taking Babylon, Cyrus claimed that: “Marduk searched through all the lands… He took Cyrus… He ordered him to go to Babylon… The people of Babylon rejoiced at his kingship.” (Cyrus Cylinder) It is claimed that some of the religious strife that had weakened the people’s trust in their leader was the Babylonian king’s adoration of the moon god and his failure to attend the new year festivals for the god Marduk and the other gods. In the Cyrus Cylinder, the Median king criticizes Nabonidus for interfering with the worship of Marduk and presents himself as a defender of the Babylonian god. About the Babylonian king, Cyrus says: “he continually did evil against Marduk’s city.” You could say it was very clever. It was not his religion, but he presented himself as the protector of their religion all the same to win over the people. Cyrus was not out to go on a killing spree; rather, he wanted a kingdom of peace. The seal says:
The Cyrus Cylinder dates from the 6th century BC and was found in the ruins of the city of Babylon. It is now in the British Museum.
“My vast army marched into Babylon in peace; I did not permit anyone to frighten the people of Sumer and Akkad.” The cylinder presents Cyrus as a benevolent ruler who respects the traditions of the conquered but also the one whose coming was desired:
“He made him enter his city Babylon without fighting or battle; he saved Babylon from hardship. He delivered Nabonidus, the king who did not revere him, into his hands.
[18] All the people of Babylon, all the land of Sumer and Akkad, princes and governors, bowed to him and kissed his feet. They rejoiced at his kingship and their faces shone”. (Cyrus Cylinder)
Bear in mind, these are the words of the ruler coming to conquest. This is propaganda aimed at gaining his people’s support. God, on the other side, presents this new empire as merely a continuation of the one before, just another beast on the scene. Whether people are manipulated, seduced, or violently suppressed, the main goal and nature of the beast remains the same. The Nabonidus Chronicle says: “The people of Akkad revolted, but he (Cyrus) massacred the inhabitants.” Perhaps there were more versions of the events than the one Cyrus presented.
The bear is not just a carnivore; it eats anything. Also called an omnivore, one who eats both plants and animals. Its main diet is berries, grass, nuts, and roots. But when hungry, it also takes small mammals and even deer and moose calves. You could say it has an opportunistic diet. The bear is very protective and aggressive when it has had cubs.
Not to be mistaken for a peaceful bear, it is described in the book of Daniel as one who “devour much flesh”.
Most certainly, many of the Medo-Persian wars left a trail of blood behind them. The Behistun Inscription lists multiple rebellions. Darius says, “Many were slain.” According to the Greek historian Herodotus, Cyrus’ campaign against the Massagetae was his bloodiest war. The whole kingdom of Lydia was also destroyed by Cyrus the Great.
Claimed to be authored by Darius the Great sometime between his coronation as king of the Persian Empire in the summer of 522 BC and his death in 486 BC. The inscriptions talk about rebellions within the empire and the king’s lineage. The inscriptions were discovered in Iran.
The Bible does not detail all the workings of the Medo-Persian empire, but, as it does with all these empires, focuses on its relationship to God’s people.
This is God’s main concern and relevance. God is not giving glory to empires, their wealth, art, or science. Daniel’s prophecy warns and prepares God’s people for their main antagonists throughout time. God explains in part why he allowed their existence, but also their crimes and their final punishment. The beasts are man’s creation, but God will continuously interfere in the ways of man, for the sake of His people.
With the Median King desiring, if possible, to be accepted rather than opposed, God could use that desire to prompt the king to act in a way that the king hoped would bring him support and glory—by allowing the Jews to return to their land.
Through the prophet Isaiah, God says he will help Cyrus gain his position to use him to help His own people: “Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
“I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron” (Isa 45:1-2) “That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid” (Isa 44:28)
These verses were written before even Cyrus was born, predicting his existence, but also flattering Cyrus by presenting the God of Israel as on his side. In this way God worked on Cyrus. As God has said: “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please” (Isa.55:10)
As God had said it, so it happened. Cyrus allowed the Jews to return and rebuild the Temple (Ezra 1:1–4). Although God was able to bring the people back during the king’s reign, he did not compel the king to give up the territory. Judah would remain a nation under Medo-Persian rule, with the complications that followed. Even God had to battle hard to impress the rulers. King Darius confirmed Cyrus’ decree and supported the rebuilding (Ezra 6:1-2). However, Persian officials attempted to stop the rebuilding of Jerusalem before Darius reversed the decision (Ezra 4:4-24). The people of Jerusalem had to deal with many challenges, as is written in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Zechariah, and Haggai. The prospect of rebuilding a city and a temple in a province of a pagan nation was discouraging to many and slowed down the process. God had to encourage them by telling them about the temple’s future glory and the coming of the Messiah. This gave them hope and purpose.
King Artaxerxes authorized Ezra to teach God’s law (Ezra 7:11-26). Another Persian king was so careless with jews that he issued a decree that would permit everyone to kill them. However, by God’s interference and deliverance, the decree was reversed. Still it showed how the Jews had many enemies in Persian provinces.
To Daniel, who was constantly praying for God to deliver his people, the angel Gabriel told him:
“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia” (Dan 10:13).
God was working powerfully for his people despite their suppression, and the Medo-Persian rulers would often strive against God, just as Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylonian kings did. As experienced by Daniel, Ezekiel, Esther, Ezra and Nehemiah, it’s not easy being a people under a foreign nation. The Medo-Persian kings were ambivalent, granting and withdrawing permissions. It was obvious they could no longer act as a free nation as they had desired.
“Raised itself on one side”
In Daniel’s vision, the power is depicted as a bear that rises on one side. The kingdom was composed of two nationalities, the Medes and the Persians. The Persian division of the kingdom fulfilled this; it attained the higher eminence, becoming a dominant influence in the nation.
Cyrus was Persian by his father’s line and half Median on his mother’s. He founded the Achaemenid Persian Empire. After defeating his grandfather, Astyages, around 550 BC, he united the Medes and Persians. But the ruling dynasty was Persian.
Persian supremacy: 550–330 BC (220 years)
And so the bear leaned on the Persian side with the Persians as the dominant power for well over 200 years, from Cyrus the Great until Alexander the Great conquered the Achaemenid Empire in 330 BC.
“It had three ribs in the mouth”
The bear is described as having three ribs in his mouth. The ribs are, of course, bones of another creature that the bear has eaten. The three ribs most likely are referencing the three great provinces of Babylon, Lydia, and Egypt, which Medo-Persia especially oppressed. They were strong kingdoms in their day and the most well-known to have fallen prey to “the bear”.
God predicted and prophesied the end of the long-running Persian Empire. As ever is with the downfall of any empire, or as Jesus said: “a house divided against itself cannot stand,” has proved true throughout time. Internal conflict and bloodshed weakened the royal palace. Their armies were weakened. And in addition, they decided to provoke the Greeks by invading them, setting Greek temples on fire, and interfering in Greek politics.
Darius III was the final ruler of the Achaemenid Persian Empire. In 330 BCE, while fleeing toward Bactria, Darius was killed by his own followers, effectively bringing the Achaemenid Empire to an end.
THE LEOPARD: THE GREEK EMPIRES
Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
The next beast shown to Daniel is a leopard with four heads and four wings, illustrating the Greek empire which would defeat the Persian empire and take over much of its territories. Because the next chapter in Daniel identifies it as the Greek empire, there is no doubt who God is speaking of.
Just like the Babylonian lion, this beast has wings that signify its speed of conquest, which is very fitting for the incredibly short time it took Alexander the Great to take over the then-known world. People today are still baffled by his great accomplishments done in a short period of time. Alexander the Great died fairly young but left an impact on the whole region for hundreds of years. Even after Rome took over territories, Greek culture remained rooted in many of the societies.
Four heads
Seleucus became king of the North, and the Ptolemaic kingdom became king of the south of these Hellenistic empires. When the Bible describes kings of cardinal directions, the king of that area can change to whoever takes the territory. This changes the definition of who the King of the North is later in Daniel chapter 11 by the empires taking over the northern territory.
Alexander the Great made the grounds, and his conquest and empire were divided into four kingdoms, given to Alexander’s four leading generals. And so, as the Bible accurately predicted, Greece became a four-kingdom empire. General Cassander had Macedonia and Greece in the west; General Lysimachus had Thrace and the parts of Asia on the Hellespont and the Bosphorus in the north; General Ptolemy received Egypt, Lydia, Arabia, Palestine, and Coele-Syria in the south; and General Seleucus had Syria and all the rest of Alexander’s dominions in the east. By 301 BC, Alexander’s conquest, divided into four parts, was complete. As is the case with the other empires, the God of the Bible does not give praise to Greek culture or accomplishments in the arts and crafts. He does not tell his people to learn from the learned Greek men. Their mention is only in relation to God’s people. The Greeks had great kingdoms and territories, wise men, philosophers, and poets, and a sought-after and celebrated culture long before they conquered the Persian Empire. Yet, their relevance and entry onto the prophetic scene are when they take the land of God’s people.
Life under the Greek empires would prove to be, at times, good and, at other times, very bad. However, because of Daniel’s prophecies, they already knew the Persian Empire would fall, and another empire would take over; they saw the Greek Empire coming and did not fight them. But accepted their fate.
In another vision given in Daniel 11, God shows how slowly the Greek empires take to fall, how they fall, but, first, how they end up even warring against each other.
In the battle of Raphia between the Ptolemies and Seleucids, both sides used elephants. The Seleucids used Indian elephants and the Ptolemies used African elephants.
The four kingdoms became two: the Ptolemaic Empire in Egypt (King of the South) and the Seleucid Empire in Syria (King of the North). Both became a pain to Judah in their turn, mostly because of conflicts between the Greek empires.
Meanwhile, the Greek empires were weakening; another was growing strong in the west, but it would take some time before it reached the land of Judah and became relevant to them.
After the Seleucid king Antiochus IV Epiphanes banned Jewish practices and desecrated the Temple, the Judean people revolted in 167 BC. They even won several times against the Seleucids, but knew they could not remain strong unless they formed a powerful alliance. In 161 BC, Judas Maccabeus, the greatest warrior for the Jews, sent envoys to Rome to seek an alliance. They traveled to Rome and addressed the Senate on behalf of Judas, saying: “Judas, called Maccabeus, and his brothers, with the Jewish people, have sent us to you to establish an alliance and peace with you…”
Antiochus IV Epiphanes was a terror to the Jews, but his rampage lasted only a small amount of time.
The agreement with Rome is recorded in 1 Maccabees 8 and formally stated in 1 Maccabees 8:22–32. It was essentially a treaty of friendship, mutual support against enemies, and the recognition of the Jewish leadership by Rome. Rome and the Seleucid Empire had already been through several armed conflicts. The Roman-Seleucid war between 192-188 BC and the later treaty of Apamea, which forced the Seleucids to surrender territory, provide hostages, and greatly reduce their military. This was also part of why the Jews were able to win battles against them; before Rome had weakened them, they would have been too strong for Rome to handle. Rome, therefore, seemed like an answer to prayer. Rome and the Seleucids were not in an active, full-scale war in 161 BC when Judah made its treaty with Rome. Still, Rome held the upper hand politically and militarily, and the Seleucids wanted to avoid conflict with them as much as possible. And their recognition of it as a Jewish state put pressure on the Seleucids to back off.
By aligning with the Seleucid enemies, the Jews hoped to gain control. However, this alliance was in direct conflict with God’s advice. And in the past, such an act was also called harlotry by God. “Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.” (Jeremiah 17:5) God had criticized them and warned them in the past for seeking alliances with Egypt and Assyria rather than seeking God. (Isa.30:1-7, 31:1, Hos.5:13; 7:11; 8:9; 12:1, Jer.2:18,36, 2.Chron.16:7-9, 2.Kings 16:7-9, 18:21, Isaiah 36:6) Thinking the Seleucids were their greatest enemy, they repeated their past mistakes and went straight into the arms of the fourth beast.
Nevertheless, after constant conflict, in 142 BC, under Simon Thassi, the Seleucids recognized Judea’s independence, marking the beginning of the Hasmonean state’s independence. The Seleucids might also have seen it as a strategy. So for a while Judah managed to take temporary control of their own land, but even then their independence was mainly an illusion, a parenthesis in the timeline. Fleeing from the power that had desecrated their temple to the power that would destroy it proved to be merely a temporary relief. And as they ought to have been forewarned, the next beast after the Greek four-headed carnivore would be worse than all the others. And in the end, the remainder of the Seleucid kingdom and Jerusalem fell into the hands of Rome the same year.
Quick timeline of the Leopard with four heads and four wings:
332–323 BC: Alexander the Great ruled Judea. 323–301 BC: His successors fought over the region.
301–200 BC: Ruled by the Ptolemies (Egypt/King of the South).
200–167 BC: Ruled by the Seleucids (Syria/King of the North).
167–160 BC: The Maccabean Revolt began.
c. 142 BC: Under Simon Thassi, Judea achieved independence from the Seleucid Empire.
140–63 BC: The Hasmonean dynasty ruled an independent Jewish state (77 years).
63 BC: Pompey the Great conquered Jerusalem, and Judea came under Roman control.
The dangers of interpreting prophecy falsely.
Because Antiochus IV Epiphanes seemed like such a powerful enemy at the time, some Jewish interpreters believed the Seleucid empire was the fourth beast, rather than one of the leopard’s heads. By viewing it as the fourth beast, they thought the kingdom of God would come soon after its fall. This created a false sense of hope, which may have influenced some to reject Christ and seek help from the actual fourth beast.
The belief that Antiochus IV’s empire is the fourth beast still appears in Christian prophecy today. As a result, many Christians have joined with Papal Rome, just as the Jews once allied with Rome. They believe this is harmless, thinking the warning about the terrible beast belongs to the past, not the present.
This misunderstanding has left both Jews and Christians unprepared for what God wanted to show them. It is understandable, given how much suffering Antiochus IV caused at the time. However, he was still only one of the four heads of the Hellenistic beast and was the third head to fall.
By not understanding prophecy correctly, even the Christian church is in great danger of making the wrong alliances in our own time.
And it must also be considered that the powers the Bible warns against have eagerly played a part in Christians’ misunderstandings of prophecy.
The city of Rome and its people were initially small and had little power compared to the Greek Empire. But slowly and steadily, Rome became stronger and stronger. Although it took a while for Rome to become the powerful capital it later became, it quickly became a refuge not just for Japhaite elsewhere, but also for escapees from other nations. The constant conflicts in the Middle East led many refugees to seek shelter in the West, which was, at the time, a more peaceful region.
The Roman religion was just a Latin version of the Greek religion: the same gods and stories, with different names, myths, and legends. If the religion was imported with them from Troy, the culture would have been influenced by neighboring Anatolian kingdoms such as the Hittite Empire. Archaeological evidence suggests the Trojans probably worshipped Anatolian deities alongside deities later identified by the Greeks with Zeus, Apollo, and Athena. Most of the Anatolian gods had a greek/roman equivalent. The Hittites of Anatolia, the allies of Troy, did first what the Romans did later. The Hittites called it the “Thousand Gods of Hatti,” because they readily adopted local gods from the regions they ruled during their prime.
Capital of the Anatolian Hittites. The city of the thousand gods. First known attempt at a pagan ecumenical religion.
As Rome began to acquire territory, it followed the same strategy. Usually, people and nations with different gods would not accept a foreign nation with other gods coming to suppress them.
Rome’s policy toward religion was often pragmatic rather than ideological. Instead of trying to eliminate local religions, Roman leaders usually found it more useful to incorporate them into the empire. This made conquered peoples less likely to rebel.
They allowed local gods to continue being worshipped. If a city surrendered peacefully and paid taxes, Rome left its temples and priesthoods intact. They identified foreign gods with Roman ones through a practice historians call interpretatio Romana. For example, a local thunder god might be identified with the Roman Jupiter, or a war god with Mars. This helped make foreign religions seem compatible with Roman religion. They sometimes adopted foreign gods in Rome itself if they had a large enough fan base. Temples were built in Rome for deities believed to benefit the empire. Good examples of this were the goddess Cybele from Phrygia, the goddess Isis from Egypt, and the Persian-associated god Mithras.
Rome also respected ancient and prestigious religious traditions. Egyptian temples, Greek sanctuaries, and many local priesthoods were preserved because cooperation was more profitable than destruction.
There was, however, one important expectation that came with their pagan ecumenical approach: religion should not threaten Roman authority. People were expected to show loyalty to the state with an almost religious devotion, often by making sacrifices for the emperor’s welfare. Groups that refused this or were perceived as politically disruptive could face persecution. This was in part why Roman and Jews conflicted, and later also early Christians and Rome, and was directly why many of them received the death penalty.
While Rome was the religious center at its time. Christians and Jews faithful to the Biblical God were viewed as a constant threat to the Roman idea of Utopia. Because they would not bow to the Roman Beast, the Roman government, with adoration and devotion, their religion was seen as a threat.
In the era before Christian persecutions and the Jewish revolt, Rome seemed to have considerable control over both state and religion for a while through its shrewd, ecumenical approach to other gods. Even after Rome adopted Christianity, it continued these strategic approaches, albeit in somewhat different ways. Rather than accepting the pagan gods, they baptized them into the Christian mythology. The pagan gods became saints, whom they could still pray to and burn incense to as mediators between God and man. It was a bold compromise which made way for idol worship inside the church under the cloak of Christian mythology.
Constructed primarily under the reigns of the emperors Tiberius, Claudius, and Nero, the Sebasteion of Aphrodisias served both as a religious sanctuary honoring the imperial family and as a public statement of Aphrodisias’ loyalty to Rome.
Why Governments want to be treated as gods
Throughout time, humans who have desired power have had to contend with religious superstition and religious conviction. This has also been an everlasting conflict between the governments of this world and God’s people. People’s hearts are often divided and conflicted when a leader or government asks one thing and your religious conscience says otherwise. The conscience is not controlled by human force or persuasion, although it can be misguided. If someone’s conscience is subdued for a while, it will still, at some uncertain point, lead to some sort of rebellion. Humans have treated their conscience as a superior authority to any governmental authority and always have. It has never been tamed. When the two conflict, it always leads to conflict and loss of power for earthly governments. This is why throughout time it was important for governmental leaders to appear one with the gods. If they managed to convince people that they represented their gods and that their words and legislation were those of their gods, they could manipulate people’s consciences to align with their objectives, allowing them to do what they wanted.
Hadrian – RESTITVTORI ORBIS TERRARVM (“Restorer of the World”) The reverse coin shows Emperor Hadrian extending his hand to raise a kneeling woman representing the Orbis Terrarum (“the inhabited world”). She kneels before him holding a globe.
That is why Pharaoh claimed to be chosen by the gods, even to be a god on earth. That is why Nebudkadnezzar wanted everyone to worship his set-up image in Babylon. It’s why the King of Media willingly signed a document stating that all who would not pray to him as a king during a certain period would be thrown into the lions’ den. It’s why Alexander the Great claimed to be the son of the gods. The Greeks honored Alexander the Great with divine honors. After his assassination, Julius Caesar was officially deified.
In ancient Egypt, pharaohs were considered divine intermediaries between the gods and humans, often associated with major deities like Ra, Osiris, Isis, and Horus.
The Bible has always fought these ideas through the prophets. They claim only God ought to be worshipped, and Him obeyed before any earthly government. Then government should be respected second. Pagan nations made the state the representation of the gods, with power in human hands, claiming to be led by the gods. In that way, they could appeal to people’s conscience that if they did not do what the government wanted, the gods would fight them and they would burn or be cast into a pagan version of hell. Those who believed they could escape punishment by defying the gods—even to the point of death—would still be tortured by the gods in the afterlife. Or even their crops would fail, or the rain would not fall because the gods were so displeased with them for not accepting their earthly leader.
Even though Rome was tolerant and inclusive of various gods, it insisted on just one condition: that if the two conflicted, its own authority be acknowledged as superior to that of any deity for the sake of peace and order. Tactfully, by making other gods their own, they avoided the controversy that arose from having to choose between their gods and the Romans.
This turned religion into a demonstration of political loyalty. Offering incense or sacrifices to the emperor was less about believing he was equal to Jupiter and more about publicly acknowledging Roman rule. Refusing could be interpreted as a refusal of allegiance to the empire. So when the Christians faced this situation, they were willing to respect Roman rule, but not in a way that would lead them to break God’s law. And so they were caught in this dilemma and chose not to perform homage rituals, which caught the pagans’ attention and was seen as a disturbance of the peace. Which is what led to their persecution. Although Rome later adopted Christianity and claimed to represent Christ as His voice on earth, it did not alter its fundamental political approach to religion. To this day, the Roman Papal leaders are adored, and dead popes are even prayed to. What Christians refused when Rome was pagan, they later allowed when Rome was Christian. Although the principles of pagan authority had not changed: Making the state and God one and the same voice. But as Christians became the leading group in the Roman Empire, conversion was the only way to remain in control. Or so it seemed.
But even before Rome became Christian, Rome’s early approach to other gods, as a center of authority and worship, made it a new center of confusion, a capital of religious and superstitious ideas blended together under one government. Like Nimrod, Rome portrayed itself as a benefactor and peacemaker, chosen by the gods.
The pagan mentality and leadership style were found in all cultures, but they had their origin. People do not follow ruthless leaders; they follow leaders they believe are saving them from danger. And power-hungry people know that.
We can see the mentality of Babel in the earliest cultures of the region Babel was once part of. Here, there are plenty of archaeological remains that give us a good idea of how to make state and god one voice. Hammurabi was the sixth Amorite king of Babylon, reigning from c. 1792 to c. 1750 BC. A relief discovered called the Code of Hammurabi shows the king receiving authority from the sun-god Shamash. In the inscription, Hammurabi presents himself as the king who brought justice, protected widows and orphans, and cared for his people. In this way, the Babylonian king is shown using a four-point method:
THE LAW: If you claim your law is given to you by the gods, the people defy the gods when defying your law.
THE LEADER: If your god trusts and has chosen your leader, you rebel against the god if you defy your leader.
YOU NEED THEM TO THRIVE: You are dependent upon your state to provide blessings and save you from war and conflict.
FEAR: This way they set people up against others. If the king or state is perceived as the manifestation of divine order, resistance represents chaos. And people will permit “enemies of the state” to be defeated.
Showing themselves as charitable was therefore a consistent strategy. How can you rebel against the hand that feeds you?
Kings such as Nebuchadnezzar II often described themselves in inscriptions as the restorers of temples, builders of cities, and providers for the gods and the people. Their role was primarily that of a pious builder appointed by the gods.
The East India House Inscription, currently on display at the British museum show Nebuchadnezzar claiming to be chosen by the gods: “I am Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, the exalted prince, the favourite of the god Marduk, the beloved of the god Nabu, the arbiter, the possessor of wisdom, who reverences their lordship, the untiring governor who is constantly anxious for the maintenance of the shrines of Babylonia and Borsippa, the wise, the pious, the son of Nabopolasser, king of Babylon; To Marduk, my lord I make supplication; Oh eternal prince, lord of all being, guide in a straight path the king whom thou lovest and whose name thou hast proclaimed as was pleasing to thee. I am the prince, the favourite, the creature of thy hand. Thou hast created me and entrusted me with dominion over all people. According to thy favour lord, which thou dost bestow on all people, cause me to love thy exalted lordship.
The Median Darius presents himself as the rightful king chosen by Ahura Mazda, the Zoroastrian supreme deity, who restored order after rebels caused chaos. In Persepolis, the reliefs depict delegates from many nations peacefully bringing tribute to the king, portraying him as the ruler who maintains harmony across the empire. In The Cyrus Cylinder, Cyrus describes himself as restoring temples, returning displaced peoples, and bringing peace to conquered lands.
Ptolemy III Euergetes, ruler of the Greek Ptolemaic kingdom, formally incorporated the title “Euergetes” (meaning “the Benefactor”) into his royal name.
Many Hellenistic cities passed honorary decrees calling kings εὐεργέτης (euergetēs, benefactor) because they funded temples, theaters, walls, grain supplies, tax relief, or other public works.
Alexander the Great’s own propaganda emphasized that he was bringing order to Asia under his rule after defeating the Persian king. His successors likewise claimed to restore stability after wars, although they spent much of the 3rd century BC fighting one another. Not unlike the United States of our own day, they were able to sell their wars as peace work. The Roman emperors likewise portrayed themselves as benefactors whose generosity (liberalitas) was publicized through coins, reliefs, inscriptions, and ceremonies.
Ptolemy III took the name “Benefactor”.
This is because propaganda works on people. You only need to have cards in your hands to control people. One is to make them feel dependent on you; the other is to make them afraid of what will happen without you. And so all leaders who play both these cards back and forth can, for a while, keep people in check.
Demetrius I Soter. The museum records the reverse inscription as: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΥ ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ Which translates to: “Of King Demetrius the Savior.”
One modern example of how powerful a state becomes when they are the benefactor can be seen in socialist countries. These two tactics are the foundation and principle of socialist rule. Even democratic socialist
Both Norway and Denmark are social democracies with a strong welfare state. In Norway, especially from the late 1800s through the 1900s, many responsibilities that had traditionally been carried out by the church gradually became the responsibility of the state or municipalities. As the modern Norwegian welfare state expanded after World War II, people increasingly looked to the state rather than the church for social support. Many historians and sociologists argue that this contributed to the decline in church involvement. Many of the world’s least religious countries—especially Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, France and parts of Western Europe—also have extensive welfare states in which government provides healthcare, education, pensions and support that churches once partly supplied.
And although this appears good, it’s also made people dependent on the state, increasing state power. It has also made them feel they don’t need God.
Circus and Bread
Other pagan nations and Rome understood the psychology long before it was practiced in modern times. Rome provided several forms of public assistance to gain the devotion of its people. Hundreds of thousands of citizens in Rome received free or subsidized grain (annona). Emperors periodically distributed money to the people (congiaria). Public entertainment – Gladiatorial games, chariot races, and festivals were funded by the state or the emperor. Public works – Aqueducts, baths, roads, fountains, and sewers were built and maintained for public benefit. Under Trajan, the Alimenta program provided support for poor children in parts of Italy. The Roman poet Juvenal, in his Satire 10, written around AD 100, said the famous line: …duas tantum res anxius optat, panem et circenses. Meaning: “… the people now care only for two things: bread and public spectacles.” Juvenal addressed how people were easily satisfied by free or subsidized grain and entertainment, and that once they had these two things, they stopped caring about political freedom, public responsibility, and good government.
In one way, it appears good and does good, but there is a hidden danger in this system of governance. And it will play a large part in the conflict right before Christ comes.
Paul said: “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thess 5:3)
About Sodom before their destruction, it was said they had: “fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness” (Eze.16:49). Idleness is a word that also means peace or rest. About the people that died in the flood, Jesus remarked: “They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all”(Luk.17:27)
God is not against people eating or having food. He himself blesses man with food and “daily bread”. It was that they were satisfied with the terrible status quo as long as they had what they desired. It was their willingness to close their eyes to injustice as long as they were being fed. It describes a careless state amid societal turmoil. God is not against peace or peacemakers. Jesus said: “Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God” (Mat.5:9)
Its not good for anyone’s soul or heart to be careless amidst suffering, or careless to the suffering you yourself cause.
The problem lies in the illusion of peace when there is no true lasting peace. Man can not replace God; He is not just the creator but sustainer of everything. He can do for man what no man can do. So when food and security are given instead of the true God or to replace God, it’s usually suppression, lies, and even theft behind the prosperity. Such was the case in the pre-flood era. They enjoyed their food and romance, but at the same time “wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” and “the earth was filled with violence” (Gen. 6 5 & 11) Such was the case in Rome. They enjoyed the benefits of its greatness and abundance, but closed their eyes to the suffering they caused, or that existed among them. Having bread does not make someone’s heart pure and good. So it was with Egypt at its greatest peak as a nation. The most wealthy nation on earth, yet built upon the backs of slaves and suffering. They would not address it, for it would cost them their benefits. Another good example is the USA. While claiming to be a nation under God, the land of the free and brave, and blessed, it has been the biggest exporter of immorality, violence, war, and strife in our day. In addition, exploitation of workers in other lands has greatly contributed to their prosperity.
Right before the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and its people, the leaders portrayed themselves as the proclaimers of peace:
“They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.” (Jeremiah 6:14)
By giving people a false security, they prevented them from preparing and saving themselves from the coming doom. They seemed like peacemakers for declaring peace, but although it made them liked, it did not make the lie a truth.
God is saying we need to be good and do good, not just imagine we are good. Both God and his enemy Satan know how easily people are manipulated if they have their immediate needs covered, and Satan uses it to his advantage to the fullest. No deceivers come to anyone’s door without gifts and promises.
A government in the best interests of people does not need to replace God or manipulate man’s conscience. Men of authority are needed to ensure equal rights and justice, but they were never needed to play gods. It is because man is afraid of losing control and hungry to be like gods that they have demanded to rule as gods. They feel if they are not admired in a highly esteemed way, someone will easily take their place. If you want someone to obey you, you have to convince them in one way or another. In the case of pagan rulers, their tactic was to unite the gods and the king into a single voice so that people would feel compelled to comply.
Pergamon.
“I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is…” were Christ’s words to the church in Pergamon. (Rev 2:13) Before Christ’s time, and any church established there, Pergamon paid great homage to the Roman government. It was the first city in the Roman province of Asia to receive an official provincial temple dedicated to the imperial cult.
Pergamon World Heritage Site. Augustus granted permission for the province of Asia to build a temple at Pergamon Acropolis dedicated jointly to Roma (the personification of Rome) and Augustus.
In 29 BC, Augustus authorized the province of Asia to build a temple at Pergamon dedicated to Roma (the goddess personifying Rome) and Augustus. This became the first official provincial temple of the imperial cult in Asia Minor and made Pergamon the provincial center for emperor worship. This arrangement distinguished provincial worship from the city of Rome itself, where living emperors could not ordinarily be worshipped as gods. Cities competed fiercely for the honor of building such temples because it brought prestige and imperial favor. Some historians think its prominence as the center of the imperial cult helps explain why it is described as the place “where Satan’s throne is” (Revelation 2:13), meaning this ideology is the foundation of Satan’s rule among men. Not being an earthly government himself, he has to work through an earthly government. If Satan wants to make laws for mankind, he has to do it through an earthly government or leader. The words he said to Eve which brought the earth under his domain were: “in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil” (Gen.3:5). God wanted man not just to desire to have God’s position but to elevate their own judgment of good and evil above God’s judgment. In the message to the Pergamum church, God recognizes that they are in the middle of the conflict. Standing up, or simply refusing to take part in the adoration of the Roman leaders at their regional center, would mean death.
Many have argued that it is claimed to be Satan’s throne in Asia because of the great altar of Zeus. But Satan does not rule through mythology; he rules through human governments. Having the Roman leaders accepted as men of the gods is how Satan gained control in the Near East and was able to put strain on the later Christian church if they did not pay such homage. The letter to the Pergamon church continues: “even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth”
The cult that had first been centered here was the same cult that caused Christian persecution in Asia. It was for the very reason that they would not pay homage to the Roman leadership as divine that they were martyred within the Roman Empire. But it is also the same that led those who did not pay homage to the Pope, who continued to demand to be treated as the voice of god on earth, to be martyred by Christian Rome. The Greek word “Antipas” is derived from two words: “anti,” meaning opposite or instead of, and “Pas,” from pater, which is Father. Meaning someone against “Father” was martyred at Pergamon. Many great Roman leaders were called fathers, “Pater Patriae,” meaning “Father of the Fatherland” or “Father of the Country”. Those who had these titles include Marcus Tullius Cicero (63 BC), Julius Caesar, Augustus, and many others. They also had the title of High Priest; the Roman leader was also the highest religious authority. The title Pontifex Maximus was their formal title. While Rome was pagan, Jesus said: “And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors” (Luk 22:25).
And he instructed His followers: “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ” (Mat 23:8-10).
Despite Christ’s clear warning, when Rome became Christian, it appointed a High Priest to be Master over the Christian church. And he was, and still is, called “Father” by billions of Christians and throughout time. The word “Pope” is not originally Latin but Greek. It comes from the word πάππας (pappas), meaning father. In this way, the Pope’s authority actually runs counter to Jesus’ authority. He commanded His followers not to follow in Rome’s footsteps.
And the idea of a church Pope is derived from and a continuation of the adoration of Roman leaders. The Pope even inherited all of the Roman ‘leaders’ titles, such as Pontifex Maximus and High Priest. This title contrasts with Christ’s claim to be the High Priest and to forbid His followers from being called “rabbi” or “master.” The Hebrew word literally means “my master” or “my teacher”. It comes from the Hebrew root “rav,” meaning “great” or “great one.” The ending is the first-person singular possessive suffix, meaning “my.” So Jesus warned against his followers calling any earthly person their great teacher or master. The Pope’s position violates all of Christ’s laws regarding His church. This mentality of accepting a “Pas” is also what led Christians to persecute Christians who were “Anti -Pas”.
By adding all of this information in the message to the church of Pergamon, God cleverly ties both Christian persecution to the Roman state and to Papal Rome as its continuation. No one should adore a leader in that way. Declaring the “anti-pas” as His “faithful martyr” and by it showing that His faithful followers do not follow an earthly father and master like done at Pergamon. And refusing to do so is credited by God as “holdest fast my name”. God’s names are really titles. His titles are Elohim, the mighty one. El Shaddai, God Almighty. These are important claims, for it shows that no man has authority over God and His law. God’s name is the seal in His law. He is called Adonai, which means Master. Elyon, which means Most High. He is called YHWH Yireh – The Lord will provide. YHWH Shalom, The Lord is peace. Any leader placing themselves up against God is anti-God. Any peace not of God is a false peace. Any man claiming to be the provider is a false god. Showing homage to anyone claiming God’s titles is worshipping a false god.
The Romans and the Chaldeans (Babylonians)
The great religion of ancient Babylon may seem to have vanished, but in reality, its doctrines and many of its practices were adopted by nearby cultures that were incorporated into Rome. But even before that, they were great teachers to the Greeks, who in turn inspired the Roman religion.
As Babylon was destroyed, the Caldeans were also scattered around. And the wise among them often gained positions in other territories. They preserved astronomical and mathematical knowledge; many surviving cuneiform tablets from the Hellenistic period were written by Babylonian temple scholars. Greek astrology, especially after Alexander the Great, was heavily influenced by Babylonian astrology. Astrology and religious mythology were often connected. There are many similarities between Greek and Mesopotamian myths, like the flood stories, divine councils, hero journeys, and underworld traditions. They reflect shared ancient Near Eastern traditions and cultural exchange.
No longer having a distinct land, the Chaldeans came to be known in Rome as astrologers and diviners, showing the origins of much of Rome’s inspiration in these areas.
Juvenal, an early 2nd century AD poet wrote in Satire 10: “grex Chaldaeorum” Meaning: “the crowd (or tribe) of Chaldean astrologers.” mocking Romans who constantly seek horoscopes from “Chaldeans” The art is still popular today. The standard Latin dictionary defines Chaldaei as: “the Chaldaeans… distinguished for astronomy and astrology.”
Although they did not become a large group in Rome, their teachings were widely accepted, and many did move there as Rome became a great nation.
Just as when the USA became a great nation, immigrants flooded the land in search of opportunity, so it was with Rome in its day. Once Rome became powerful and advanced, it was the place to be. This made Rome, although ethnically and religiously Western European, also the international city of its day. In the time of the disciples, the city was referred to as the new Babylon. The old Babylon was destroyed and ruined, but its reputation remained and was compared to Rome. Even in the book of Peter and in the book of Revelation, Babylon is used as a code word for Rome. Several early Christian writers, such as Irenaeus (2nd century), Tertullian (2nd-3rd century), and Jerome (4th century), who translated the Bible into Latin, say Babylon refers to Rome. In addition, some Jewish texts say that Babylon destroyed the temple and Jerusalem the first time, and that Rome did so as well, destroying it the second time and therefore being a second Babylon.
Greek and Roman religion, although distinct, is of the same nature as Babylonian religion. Even of most pagan religions. It centered around the sun god, the weather gods, and the fertility goddesses. They were calendar gods, worshipped at their appointed times. They were simply the same religion expressed differently with different mythological stories. The principles remained largely the same. The governmental structure as well, where these gods and government were intertwined, and the leader was the voice of god on earth. In the Bible, God does not differentiate the religion of the pagans from each other but often just refers to them as the “other gods” of the “goy” (nations).
Rome’s connection with Babylon is also shown in the visions given to the prophet Daniel, which indicate that the empires mentioned to him continue something Babylon started. In Daniel 2, Rome and Babylon are seen as different body parts of the same body. Babylon is the head, Pagan Rome the legs, and Rome divided between the tribes, the feet Jesus will crush at his coming. And although the state represents different groups of people suppressing God’s people, they are united in a body as their purpose and behavior are seen as blasphemers and warriors against God. They consistently not only suppress God’s people but demand from them that they regard their governmental body as a higher authority than God Himself.
And so Rome became the new Babel. The very empire God wanted to protect His people from if they had been faithful. Whose birth was the direct result of Israel’s falling away. And which birth as a Christian power was a direct result of the followers of Christ falling away. And it is in the Roman beast’s honor that a new superpower of the ten tribes, a territory they colonize, will, in the final days of earth’s history, repeat the beast’s behavior. And demand a loyalty to the government, a sign of loyalty which, if taken, will place God’s people in violation of God’s law. And we are talking, of course, of the second beast of Revelation 13 and the mark of the beast. Being the last beast of them all to continue the beastly behavior before Christ says enough forever. One final test will come upon God’s people. Will they bow to religious ordinances of a state, or will they choose loyalty to God as the highest religious authority and be denied the right to buy or sell? (Revelation 13:11-18) It is this final test that is right now coming upon us. And God has made it clear, by saying the mark of the beast is in homage to the Roman beast, that this is a Christian aggression, not a pagan like the former pagan beasts. It mirrors Christian Rome. The Mark of the Beast law is therefore likely to claim loyalty to Christ in its laws. To make decition og Christ behalf. To make laws on Christ’s behalf. Making the final conflict Christian brother against Christian brother. Not unlike the foundation of Rome, where one brother killed the other to create and protect a form of government and the idea of peace created on bloodshed.
As God said through the prophet Habakkuk : “Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!” — Habakkuk 2:12
Rome rises around the same time as the fall of Israel. In it lie the very warnings God gave them through Moses. The consequences of their infidelity would lead to suppression and scattering of the people. Rome would become the greatest suppressor of them all in more ways than one.
Genetically and historically, we can see that both the Etruscans and the early Latin people of Italy were part of Rome’s founding. But they are also closely genetically connected to the steppe people who moved westward, from whom most of Europe is now descended.
Did the rulers of Rome come from Troy?
Ancient Greek writers did not view the Roman capital as a Greek capital. And in the prophecy given to the prophet Daniel, we also do not see the Roman Beast as of the “same material” or “beast” as the Greeks, although it rose up near the territories of Greek expansion and trade. Mixing with the Greeks would be unavoidable. Although they intermingled with the Greeks, it was still not a Greek city. Surprisingly, despite the great Greek cities, Rome would become the most powerful city among the descendants of Japhet. Some Greek historians regarded the Romans primarily as an Italian people who later mixed with newcomers. Writers such as Dionysius of Halicarnassus (1st century BC) argued that the Romans were a mixture of native Italians, Greeks, and Trojans. No matter, still the tribes of Japhet.
Most historians before the common era claim that the founders of Rome were fugitives and former citizens of ancient Troy who had wandered for some time before settling there. The man who escaped from Troy and whose descendants established Rome was called Aeneas, the son of Aphrodite. The reason many historians reject the historical records of Greek and north-western historians, such as Snorri Sturluson, is the blending of human stories with those of the gods. However, in the ancient world, it was customary to link humans with gods, as tribal leaders and kings often claimed divine authority to legitimize their rule and consolidate power over their subjects. In fact, the Pharaohs did it, the Greek rulers did it, and later Roman rulers did it. No one questions that Alexander the Great was a real person, despite his claim to be the Son of Zeus-Ammon and a descendant of the semi-god Heracles. So often, historical figures not confirmed by archaeology are rejected as historical figures because they blend with religious mythology. However, this was standard in those days. Aeneas was a prince of the Trojan royal line and one of Troy’s greatest warriors. The gods repeatedly rescue him from death in battle, reflecting a destiny that extends beyond the fall of Troy and toward the future founding myths of Italy. According to Virgil’s Aeneid, Aeneas escaped the burning city, carrying his father, Anchises, and leading other Trojan survivors to the west. After years of wandering across the Mediterranean, he reached the Italian Peninsula, where he fulfilled a divine mission to establish a new homeland for his people. Aeneas was not considered the founder of Rome itself, but Roman tradition treated him as the ancestor of the line that eventually produced the twin brothers Romulus and Remus. His son, Ascanius, was said to found Alba Longa, from which Rome’s royal ancestry descended. The family of Julius Caesar and Augustus even claimed descent from Aeneas through this lineage. When later other western and northern European tribes claim to be descendants of Troy as well, some residing around the Black Sea region before heading north, this fits with the idea that they are all distant cousins. And although the legends in the rest of Europe are not as old, their connection to Rome, which has had these traditions from very early on, links the two.
The very narrow strait served as an important trading network with Bronze Age Magog. As then, who controlled the strait mattered. The narrow opening allowed taxation and military control then and now. The ancient city of Troy is said to have been at the narrowest section, making them lords of the strait in their time. The Greeks’ defeat of the Trojans pushed them out of the region. (Likely pushed Magog out of the Mediterranean).
The Position of Troy : Strait of Strife
Ancient Greek historians claim Troy lay in the Dardanelles, the narrow strait in northwestern Turkey that connects the Aegean Sea with the Sea of Marmara.
The name Dardanelles comes from Dardanus (Dardanos), the legendary ancestor of the Trojans. In antiquity, the strait was called the Hellespont by the Greeks, and an ancient town called Dardanus stood on its Asian shore. The modern name “Dardanelles” is derived from that town. It’s now called the Strait of Bosporus. This narrow strait has been one of the world’s most strategically important waterways for trade, migration, and military campaigns since antiquity. This has caused a constant pull-and-push between the tribes of Japhet and the tribes of Shem throughout time. Even the city of Constantinople is north of this strait, which divides Europe and Asia. Being in the borderland, control shifted between the west and the east.
The strait was central to the history of the ancient Greek world and the Achaemenid Empire. According to tradition, Xerxes I built pontoon bridges across the Hellespont in 480 BCE to invade Greece, while Alexander the Great crossed it in 334 BCE as he began his campaign against Persia. Control of the waterway remained strategically important throughout the Byzantine and Ottoman Empires.
Writers such as Herodotus, Xenophon, and Strabo all describe the peoples around the Black Sea and the importance of the Hellespont as the gateway to that trade.
It was the waterway to the territory assigned to the Biblical Magog.
The strait worked as an important trading network in ancient times.Constantine and Rome felt they were just taking back what had once been theirs. In AD 312, before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, Constantine reported experiencing a vision associated with the Christian God. After that, he went after the strait. They came the land-way and had to battle in the strait where Troy once was situated. Here he defeated Licinius, who controlled the area. The city at the upper strait was first called New Rome, then Constantinople. Constantine had become Christian, and securing Rome’s presence at the strait and closer to the Middle East was motivated by his newfound religion and by a desire to make the Middle East Christian-dominated. When Israel took Canaan, there was strife here and people driven out; when Constantine wanted to make Palestine Christian, he took the strait as his starting point to accomplish it, and when England was about to establish a territory in Palestine, they secured the strait. The strait and Israel are connected.
Although Troy is often described as just a city, it was actually a larger region.
Although the Romans claimed to have come from Troy or to have been chased from that region, they would not give up their claim to it. And took great pride in claiming the territories. Rome took control of that region in 133 BC, when the Kingdom of Pergamon was bequeathed to Rome by Attalus III. The Troad (area around Troy), including the site of Troy, then became part of the Roman province of Asia. In the year 73 AD, Vespasian incorporated the northern strait of the Bosporus into a Roman province. Herodotus had referred to the city as Byzantion. Emperor Constantine made this the new capital of Rome in AD 330, and the city was also called New Rome. Zosimus (early 6th century) says Constantine first went to the Troad and began laying out a city between Sigeum and ancient Ilion, but then abandoned the project after receiving a divine sign and instead chose Byzantium (New History II.30). Historical writers such as John Malalas (AD 490-570) present Roman history as beginning with the Trojans and continuing through Rome to Constantinople. Because Constantinople was the New Rome, they believed it inherited Rome’s Trojan ancestry.
This is all more relevant than meets the eye when we dive into the Bible’s prophecies and how God describes bringing Rome down step by step, as we will look at in another chapter.
The strait remains an area of conflict in our day. This is from the 1800s, when British and French troops fought alongside the Ottomans (Turks) and won. Both sides (Russia and France) claimed interests is protecting their religious status in the “holy land” as part of the reason for the conflict.
Many modern wars are, interestingly, tied to the same strait, showing how its importance has never changed. During the Russo-Turkish wars (17th- 19th centuries), it was a recurring Russian objective to gain influence through this passage, and the conflict became known as “the Straits Question” in debates. During the first Crimean War, one of the central issues was preventing Russia from dominating the Black Sea and then seizing the straits (1853–1856). Britain and France feared Russia would control the Straits and expand toward the Mediterranean and therefore helped the Ottomans. Russia lost. The Treaty of Paris (1856) limited Russian power in the Black Sea and protected Ottoman territorial integrity. Then, from friends to enemies in the conflict in 1915-1916. The Gallipoli campaign’s objective was to capture the Dardanelles, reach Constantinople, and knock the Ottoman Empire out of the war. This time the United Kingdom and France fought against the Ottoman Empire, siding with Russia because the Ottomans had allied with Germany. This ultimately led to the end of the Ottoman Empire. After the Ottoman Empire collapsed, modern Turkey was founded in 1923. During the Cold War, Turkey feared Soviet/Russian pressure, especially over the Turkish Straits — the Bosporus and Dardanelles.
So Turkey joined NATO with Greece in 1952, becoming an ally of Britain, France, and the USA against the Soviet bloc. This would, from then on, place the strait at the center of the Cold War between the West and Russia.
When the Ottomans sided with Germany, Western Europe helped bring about the Ottoman Empire’s fall and secured the strait. Taking the strait was necessary to protect their interests in Palestine and the Middle East. Turkey later joined an alliance with Europe through NATO, allowing it to retain the territories without further conflict. Through their alliance, they have full control over which Russian warships head towards the Mediterranean and when. There were two primary objectives in bringing down the Ottoman Empire. Take the Middle East and control the strait for security.
What it was really about was who was in power in the Mediterranean, protecting the lands there, and controlling the trade routes. To this very day, Turkey, through its alliance and dependence on NATO, puts restraints on Russian movements. If Turkey is at war, or believes it faces an imminent threat of war, it can restrict or close the straits to warships under the convention. As an example, after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Turkey invoked the Montreux Convention and closed the straits to the warships of the belligerent parties.
The strait was always both controlling trade and determining who could trade. In modern times, on the eve of World War I, historians estimate that about 90% of Russia’s grain exports passed through the Dardanelles. When the Ottoman Empire closed the straits in 1914, it cut off one of Russia’s principal export routes and made it much harder for Russia to receive supplies from its Allies. In newer times, it was a political concern in the EU that Russia could deliberately use cheap grain exports to destabilize European markets, especially after Russia flooded the world market with cheap grain, driving prices down in 2023–2024
Even today, Russia exports much of its grain through Black Sea ports, so access to the Turkish Straits remains economically important. Around 90% of Russia’s seaborne grain exports in recent years have departed from southern Black Sea ports, then passed through the Bosporus and Dardanelles.
Who controls the territory is also tied to having the upper hand in conflicts in the Mediterranean. Russia, being sometimes allied with countries NATO countries wish to subdue, especially in the Israel – Arab conflicts, plays a role. To protect the modern state of Israel before its establishment and now. It is a recurring conflict.
This is all relevant, as we will see, that the powers who wish to have control of this strait are “the horns” of the Roman “beast”. The same nations that, together with Rome, claim to come from this strait. The Roman beast seized it, then the “horns of the beast” have battled for it. And everything will make more sense as we look more closely into the prophecies in Revelation.
Whoever the Trojans were, and even if the story of the war in Greek poetry is said to have initially been about a stolen woman, which Hollywood keeps romanticizing, there might have been a larger conflict at play that is still ongoing to this very day.
The Trojans had placed themselves strategically at a crossroads, securing their own position while also controlling the Greeks’ access. After the fall of Troy, it is said that the inhabitants spread towards western Europe and Ukraine. And of course, the legend of the prince himself, whose descendants, according to legend, laid the foundation of the city of Rome.
The Legendary Founder: On the blood of his brother
The founder of Rome was said to be nurtured and raised by a wolf.
Rome is said to have been founded as a kingdom on April 21, 753 BC, by Romulus, a descendant of the Trojan prince. According to the traditional Roman legend, Romulus and his twin brother were said to have been orphaned and nurtured by a beast. Romulus and his brother Remus quarreled over where to found a new city and how to interpret divine omens. After Remus mocked or crossed the newly built city wall, Romulus killed him, declaring that the same fate would befall anyone who violated the walls of what became Rome. It is not certain, though, whether the story of the city’s founding is a legend or the truth.
A statue of the Roman legend. To establish the city, Romulus killed his brother. ” You are what you eat” might be a fitting term for Rome’s beginnings and its becoming a beast.
The founding date was calculated by the Roman scholar Marcus Terentius Varro in the 1st century BC, very long after the claimed beginning. The ancient writer Fabius Pictor, writing in the 3rd century BC, claimed Rome was founded in 748 BC. Lucius Cincius Alimentus, an early Roman statesman, historian, and annalist active during the late 3rd century BCE, claimed it was founded in 729/728 BC. But Rome ultimately adopted Varro’s calculation, which was based on kings’ lists, genealogies, and chronological calculations.
Archaeologically, settlements on the hills of Rome date back to around the 8th century BC, which aligns fairly closely with the traditional date. Its then-young city also explains why the Bible never mentions Rome when listing the great trading cities of its time. Rome was fairly new and not yet a major trading hub. To be that, it had to be a city in a very populous area, which Rome for a long time wasn’t.
The Scattering and Gathering
Greek historian Eratosthenes dated the fall of Troy to the 12th or 13th century BC, which corresponds to the Judges era (1400–1350 B.C. to 1045 B.C) and roughly before the Great Bronze Age collapse. But with history written so long after, it may very well be around the same time. If Greek, Roman, and Biblical history are considered together, we should note that the founders of Rome were first dispersed from the Near East when Israel entered Canaan. God promised to drive out any enemies Israel had and give them peace. God might have done more than drive people out of Canaan.
Again, the timesetting is important because it was during this era that God was helping Israel establish itself in Canaan. About the future Northern Israel kingdom, God said: “
“His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth” Deuteronomy 33:17
The meaning here shows how the northern kingdoms’ presence, led by the tribes of Joseph, would push people further into their lands. “The ends of the earth” in ancient times was commonly used to refer to the cardinal directions, not because they believed the earth was flat and had an actual end. The people of the east were pushed eastward, the people of the north pushed north and westward, the people of the south pushed southward.
Other scriptures say:
“Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you… There shall no man be able to stand before you.” (Deuteronomy 11:23–25)
And to Solomon: “Behold, a son shall be born to thee… I will give him rest from all his enemies round about… and his name shall be Solomon.” (1 Chronicles 22:9)
Uprooting people that were a threat to Israel would also mean future threats as well as current threats. God would ensure his people were not threatened, as long as they remained faithful. It cannot be said completely for sure that the Trojans and the Indo-European tribes in Anatolia would have been a threat to Israel, but it’s striking when they dispersed, but also when they re-enter the scene. They scattered when Israel was faithful. And they came back when they were not. The Strait of Bosporus was the waterway of the northern territory, and if not under control, would bring the hordes of the north towards the promised land by ships. God permitted the Greeks to have control of these areas, but others were pushed out. If the strait was for a while controlled by the tribes of Magog in the north, God would protect Israel by blocking their way to the Mediterranean by a strong Greek presence. For a long time, other tribes also controlled the land route through the Caucasus. And if the story of Troy is true, they even seized it with the help of the tribe of Dan. Pushing these tribes north of the strait, north-west in Europe where they belonged, and some to the Italian peninsula.
God helped secure Israel in the region, making it, at one time, the greatest nation of its day. AI drawing of King Solomon, who lived in peace. But his falling away would change Israel’s future.
In many ways, Rome was the superpower that was never supposed to exist as an imperium had Israel remained faithful. The Roman beast rising and the fall of God’s people are closely connected.
The 7 kings.
The first system of rule in the still-small, growing city of Rome was seven kings ruling over seven hills.
They were Romulus (753–716 BC), Numa Pompilius (715–673 BC), Tullus Hostilius (673–642 BC), Ancus Marcius (642–617 BC), Lucius Tarquinius Priscus (616–579 BC), Servius Tullius (578–535 BC), Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (535–509 BC)
Rome was founded as a city upon and in between seven hills:
Palatine Hill – The traditional site where Romulus founded Rome.
Capitoline Hill – The political and religious center, home to the Temple of Jupiter.
Aventine Hill – Traditionally associated with the plebeians.
Caelian Hill – Primarily a residential area in ancient Rome.
Esquiline Hill – The largest of the seven hills.
Viminal Hill – The smallest of the seven hills.
Quirinal Hill – Associated with the ancient Sabines before becoming part of Rome.
Not only was it said to have begun with seven kings ruling from the city of seven hills, but Rome would later experiment with seven forms of government: Kings, Consuls, Decemvirs, Dictators, Triumvirs, Emperors, and Popes. In addition, it did what no other empire had done before: change religion.
And we will look at all the subtle and obvious ways God reveals the Roman Beast in Prophecy when we go into the prophecies in detail. And especially the way this beast is so dangerous to God’s people.
The Jerusalem – Rome connection:
For a long time, the Bible is not focused on the descendants of Japhet or viewing them as a threat. Their enemies are rather their surrounding nations in the Near East. But as Israel falls, God again brings up the names of Japhet’s sons, beginning with Javan (Greeks). It’s clear that, at the time of Israel’s scattering, they became relevant to Israel, although not before. Knowing they were sold as slaves to these nations around the Mediterranean makes them, of course, relevant, but God also states that the children of Japhet will threaten Jerusalem in the future. To the prophet Daniel, God says that when told of the future, he should look to the west and the kingdoms coming from there. Making the final great enemies of God’s people the children of Japhet, whereas first it was the children of Ham (Egypt, Canaan, Sidon, Kush), then the children of Shem (Midianites, Arameans, Assyrians, Caldeans) before finally being the children of Japhet. In the Bible’s storytelling, we see God place His people as the center of the descendants of Noah physically, but also spiritually in spiritual warfare and how it plays out after each group attacks God’s people in different ways at different places till the end of all earthly kingdoms. The Old Testament is largely devoted to conflicts between Israel and the tribes of Ham and Shem. It only gives forewarnings of the conflicts with the tribes of Japhet, as they did not occur in Old Testament times. This is why most of what concerns the conflict with Japhet is written in prophecy. In the New Testament, we are taken to the time of the prophesied conflict and how it develops from then on. The book of Revelation explains how the conflict will continue to play out from John’s time to the end.
The mention of the Japhate tribes begins at the close of Israel’s era of kings. The Northern Kingdom of Israel fell in 722 BCE. Recorded in 2 Kings 17, while the southern kingdom of Judah fell with Jerusalem in 586 BCE. But before that, Sennacherib, the King of the Neo-Assyrian Empire, in 701 BC “came up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them.” (2 Kings 18:13) According to Sennacherib’s own inscription (the Taylor Prism), he captured 46 fortified cities of Judah along with many smaller towns and villages. While most of the captives taken to Babylon later were from Jerusalem, many from the Judean cities that were taken by the Assyrians were sold on the slave market. 200,150 people, according to the Assyrian stele, were taken from their homes, and Assyria often redistributed captives. Although the Assyrian inscriptions do not say what they did with them, the Bible does. They were sold to the Greeks through Tyre and Sidon.
Southern Italy was Greek colonies. Many slaves were sold to the Greeks. Northern Italy had near northern ancestry. Still to this day the genetic pool of north and south Italy is diverse.
We also know that a Greek colony called Magna Graecia was founded in southern Italy between the 8th and 6th centuries BC. The most notable founding dates include 706 BC for Taras (Modern Taranto) and 734 BC for Cumae. This means that a lot of the Greek slaves were likely brought to these territories, which the Bible records were when the children of Judea were sold to the Greeks and by Greeks in these regions.
No doubt the timing, the genetics, and the records in the Bible show that slaves from Israel and Judah helped build Rome and many Greek and Latin settlements in the region. Over millennia, they would now number in the millions among these nations. Both tribes of Israel, slaves from Judah, immigrants, and Christian-Jewish fugitives have for a long time been intermingled with the tribes of Japhet.
All the major empires shown to Daniel- Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome- had slaves or captives from Judah and Israel among them. This is relevant because God focuses on empires that are connected to his people in ways that are suppressive or even deceptive. It is therefore very relevant that slaves were taken to the western European coastland.
Rome was a strategic new city as trade and population increased during the era of Greek colonization.
As Rome became a great republic and especially during the Empire, large numbers of slaves were used to build roads, aqueducts, temples, villas, mines, and public buildings. The curse on Israel if they disconnected with God showed a potentially hard life: “The LORD shall scatter thee among all people… And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest…” (Deuteronomy 28:64–67)
Among the curses given by Moses to Israel, several might relate to Rome, while one is certain to be about Rome. However, when God gave these curses, Rome did not yet exist, which complicated how God could warn them.
Firstly, the following curse about Israel’s fate does not exclude Rome: “and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth” (Deu.28:25)
Secondly, they were told to become idol worshippers. “The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone” (Deut.28:36) Although this verse fits very well what happened to King Manasseh, King Jeroboam, and the captives of Judah taken there, one part of the verse does not fit as perfectly.
“Which neither thou nor thy fathers have known.” Babylon was, according to the Bible, the Chaldeans. These people were Abraham’s homeland before going to Canaan. Their forefather. Genesis 11:28 says Abraham traveled from the “Ur of the Chaldees (Chaldeans). Abraham said:
“The LORD God of heaven, which took me from my father’s house, and from the land of my kindred…” (Genesis 24:7). This tells us that the Chaldeans were descendants of the same people as Abraham. And Babylon was among the most well-known nations at the time. But at the time of Israel’s captivity to Babylon, it was ruled by the Chaldeans, who were also a Semitic-speaking people, though with a different language subgroup than Hebrew.
The curse in Deuteronomy 28:36 can fit the Babylonian captivity and probably speak of it; it may also apply to the Roman destruction. Their last remaining kings were taken down by Rome, as well as the people scattered, killed, or made slaves. The story repeated itself twice, and therefore this curse fits what happened with Rome as well. Herod’s son Archelaus was exiled to Vienne in Gaul by Rome. His other son Herod Antipas was also exiled to Gaul by Emperor Caligula.
Another verse that is the most likely speaking of Rome says:
“The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed …And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down” (Deu 28:49-51 & 52)
The Roman legions carried the eagle standard, called the Aquila. Each legion had one eagle standard. It was usually a gold- or silver-colored eagle mounted on a pole. The soldier who carried it was called the Aquilifer. The eagle represented the honor and identity of the legion. The Romans had a language completely unknown to Judah.
From the end of the Earth: A nation from far, from the end of the earth, points elsewhere than Babylon, which was in the center of the then-known world. Rome long existed outside the known territories of Israel, and its people extended to the western end, which was considered the end of a cardinal direction. The Roman Empire recruited soldiers from the Gauls, Britons, and many other peoples in western Europe. After 25 years of service, non-citizen troopers usually received Roman citizenship. (1)
Strange language: When Babylon took the land, God said the land would rest, enjoy its sabbath, and then be rebuilt. When Rome took the land, they destroyed it so it would not be rebuilt as a Jewish state again. God gave no promise of restoration after Rome’s destruction. The bible curse indicates a different language family from the Semitic one.
Fierce nation: “A nation of fierce countenance” also fits very well with the fourth beast Daniel saw, which is described as “dreadful and terrible”.
Eagle: Finally, the symbolic use of the eagle when describing them, knowing that the eagle was the sacred military standard of a Roman legion. It was one of the most important symbols of Roman power. Every armed legion carried the eagle standard, called the Aquila.
Roman Battle Banner.
The first connection with Rome in the Bible is that they began to rise when Israel fell. And they would exist till the very end. And God’s earthly kingdom would never be restored during the curse of their and their ten tribe’s exsistance as ruling kingdoms. Once Rome took over, the gathering of Israel would only take place at the coming of Christ’s Kingdom. And they would be gathered to a heavenly city.
Rome began to rise to prominence at the very same time as the selling of Judean and Israeli slaves on the Greek slave-market is no coincidence. Many were also Israeli refugees seeking shelter in the newly established cities. Many chose to travel as far away from their then enemies as possible.
The Bible is clear throughout, and it can not be mistaken: The origin of Rome in relation to God’s people is at least a curse, but more accurately described as “the”great curse.
The Trojan horse
According to Greek tradition, after years of failing to capture Troy, the Danaoi and Greeks pretended to sail away, leaving behind a giant wooden horse as an offering. Believing they had won the war, the Trojans brought the horse into their city, unaware that enemy soldiers were hidden inside. During the night, the soldiers emerged, opened the city gates for the returning Greek army, and Troy was destroyed.
Thus were the claimed ancestors of Rome’s leaders defeated. But as we go through the prophecy and history of Rome’s connection with God’s people, we will also see a similar approach by Rome directed at the Christian church. After first trying to destroy the followers of Christ through open persecution, imprisonment, and killings, without succeeding in bringing the church down; rather, it prospered at every attack they made. They would then create their own Trojan horse and bring it inside the church, where they would destroy it from the inside.
The story of Troy was written as a poem, but has perhaps unintentionally become a metaphor for how to conquer your fenced enemies through trickery. How to get inside the gates. Pretend to be defeated, offer a gift, be received, and then destroy. A method the Bible warns Satan would use. He would portray himself as an angel of light and his angels as workers of righteousness to gain access and destroy the church from within (2 Cor. 11:14-15). Did Satan use Rome as a Trojan horse to destroy the church of Christ?
(1). Suetonius, writing about Julius Caesar: "Encouraged by this, he added to the legions which he had received from the state others at his own cost, one actually composed of men of Transalpine Gaul and bearing a Gallic name too (for it was called Alauda), which he trained in the Roman tactics and equipped with Roman arms; and later on he gave every man of it citizenship."
The areas around Rome were inhabited by the Latins and Etruscans before the city was established. However, genetics shows that they were related to the populations that later moved into the territory and helped build what would become the Roman Empire. Genetic analysis shows that much of Western Europe is descended from the same founding families. There is a biblical explanation for this.
The Bible explains that some of Japhet’s sons first moved along the coast:
“The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.(Gen 10:2-5)
Another Jewish historical book found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, called the Book of Jubilees, explains in more detail how they divided the land of Japheth. Javan’s sons were to receive the first land area westward, along with its islands, which are today known as Greece and the Balkans. The Bible consistently uses the word Javan for the Greeks in the original manuscripts, and they are among the most frequently mentioned tribes of Japheth because of their close proximity to Israel and the Middle Eastern nations in Biblical times. Through them, the Western Europeans traded with the Middle East
Several of Japheth’s sons had cities named after them. His sons’ names were Elisha, Chittim, Dodanim, and Tarshish. It is well known in ancient history that the island we now call Cyprus was once called Elisha; the city now called Larnaca was then called Chittim, and Tarshish, although still not found, was frequently mentioned in the Bible as a major trading port in cooperation with Israel’s enemies. Most Bible scholars accept that the biblical Tarshish was located in the area of Gadir, Spain. Dodanim was the name for the island of Rhodes. The population grew and stretched westward.
Japhet’s sons moving along the Mediterranean coast is not only biblical but found in several ancient writings.
It’s unknown how far they spread beyond what the Bible tells us. Europeans are a mix of people from all the Japhetic tribes today (Including Shem and Ham in lower numbers). Because of displacement, conquest, and migrations within the European continent. There is no “pure” Javanite race.
The Book of Jubilees further explains that Japheth’s other sons, Tubal and Tiras, received what we now call Italy and the Tyrrhenian Islands. The name Tyrrhenian Sea, still used today, derives from the people of Tiras, called the Tyrrhenians by the Greeks (Hesiod, 8th century BCE). Meshech’s area is now known as Southern France towards Spain. Among the people living there were the Ligurians, and it is generally believed that, when the Greeks founded Massalia (Marseille), the name was taken from the local language, as it lacks a convincing Greek etymology. The name therefore was likely a Greekification of the local name. Greeks often Greekified endings in their place names and regions. But it’s worth noting that by the 8th century BCE, many tribes of Meshech were spread across the region, not just the one in southern France.
Japhet’s son Gomer moved northward, and Magog north of the black sea to the west of Gomer. The north-west coast was originally given to Japhet’s son, Medai, who, according to the script, declined and stayed in the Middle East, making way for the southern tribes to move north as well, together with Magog, who could then expand westward. Mixing especially the tribes of Tubal and Meshech with Magog, making them a blend of the people of Western and North-West Europe. After the time of Christ, many theologians attempted to reinterpret the positions of Gomer and Magog as presented in the Book of Jubilees, often motivated by religious and political considerations. This reinterpretation gained traction during the Middle Ages and was adopted by both Catholic and Jewish scholars, reshaping traditional understandings of their roles and locations.
The placement of Japhet’s sons Gomer and Magog is of great significance because Magog, as Mesech and Tubal’s “chief prince,” is mentioned as a key aggressor against God’s people and Jerusalem.
Popular interpretations of certain prophecies have led Jews and many Christians alike to place Magog only in Russia or as Russia, whereas the book of Jubilees places Magog in mid- and northern Europe more broadly.
Naturally, as time progressed and Europe was considered the Christian capital of the world, the idea that they were Magog was opposed, despite several European nations having traditional historical records claiming descent from the tribes of Magog. For if the crusaders were descendants of Magog, it did not look good biblically that they were marching towards Jerusalem. After all, the bible was clear that Magog, Tubal, and Mesech coming against Jerusalem was against God’s will and not welcomed. But a simple switch from the old Jewish historical writing found in the Dead Sea Scrolls to new ideas solved this problem. The Bible also made it clear that God’s design was for the territory to be inhabited by the tribe of Shem, especially the Abrahamic tribes; even if Israel was scattered from the land, a remnant of Abraham would remain. Jesus confirmed that Christians would not have a kingdom of His on earth before His coming, rejecting the idea that God was sending Christians to conquer Jerusalem (Luke 17:20-37). So even if the tribes of Magog would become Christians, they still had no permission to seize Jerusalem.
In Lebor Gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland), it, successive waves of settlers are described. Some historians in the past state that the Gaels and the Scythians are descendants of Magog. Partholón, Nemed, and Baath mac Magog are among the sons of Magog mentioned as stretching their borders to the western islands. Unfortunately, there are many versions found of the historical work, where names are altered. Therefore, it’s hard to use it as solid evidence of the legends. However, the version translated by R.A.Stewart Macalister says that from Magog’s grandsons three groups of people emerged: Negua → Vandals, Saxons, Lombards Airmen → Goths, Burgundians and others. Isicon → Romanus, Francus, Britus, Albanus “From Ibath are the Franks, Romans, Saxons, Britons, and Albanians.”
If these legends are derived from real history in the land, though many will argue against it because the stakes are so high, then the tribes of Magog came to the land of Mesech and Tubal, took part in establishing Rome. This does seem to harmonize with their genes coming “from the north” of Italy.
It also fits very well with Magog’s name not being mentioned in the Bible even once, since the people were scattered until the very time of Rome’s founding, in Ezekiel’s days. And here it is presented as a future threat, not a past one. Magog had lived in seclusion in the north, but its tribe would later become very dominant. It made several marches towards God’s land on many different occasions. In Revelation, they are described as leading a final war against God after a thousand years. Yet it is also worth noting that God sometimes mentions a name with a religion. Magog also represents a religion of defiance. And the clue to understanding this religion is to see its birthplace and where it spread: the territories of Magog. For if the historical records of the north are correct, three powerful religions emerged from Magog: Papism, Protestantism, and atheism. Atheism is perhaps the most widespread ideology of our day and age, and most certainly comes with an attitude of war against God. Is the war of Magog a spiritual war, a physical war, or both? Is it the first one, then the other? Is it in the future, in the past, or present? And we will look into all of this in coming chapters.
Rome’s genetics
Rome, as it grew into more than a small kingdom, was largely founded by a mixed population of western Europeans. In part, it was also influenced by western and northern European tribes, leaving a strong mark there. It’s fair to say that Rome during the Roman Empire became the center of the tribes of Magog, Meshech, and Tubal. Among the largest paternal lineages found in western Europe are three distinct mutations that are believed to have spread from the alpine areas northward, southward, and westward. The paternal gene from the alpine regions is closer to the one in north-west Europe and is also believed to be the main paternal gene of Northern Italy.
Among the major western branches, we see the genetic mutation markers L21 (Britain & Ireland), DF27 (Iberia), and U152 (Alpine region) as subgroups of what is also called paternal haplogroup R1b. Written long before genetics was a science, testing of West European populations shows a genetic connection between the Vandals, Saxons, Lombards, Goths, Franks, and Romans. Compared with genetic mutations elsewhere, it is clear that these European tribes share the same paternal ancestry.
As we will see, in the Bible God provides a great deal of information about a European beast with ten main tribes, three of which fight the others, yet their background remains an apparent mystery despite God naming the ancestral fathers of all the other beasts he shows Daniel. And as we continue, we will look at every detail and piece of information God gives us about Rome and the fourth Beast of the book of Daniel chapter 7.
Daniel 7: The fourth and last beast before Christ second coming. The Roman Beast has ten horns, ten tribes that continue ruling after the empires fall. This is clearly a reference to European tribes.
The tribes of Japhet’s relation with Israel
At first, people did not move far away from Babel. The descendants of Japheth first settled in what we today call western Turkey and, from there, slowly spread west and north.
Some went ahead of others but were later joined by new movements into the lands. Yet we can see their relation genetically.
It can be somewhat hard to distinguish the genetics of Japhet’s sons who moved westward, since only two of Japhet’s sons are mentioned as having actual sons. It is unclear whether the others had girls instead of sons or if only one of them had girls and not boys. There is no biblical claim that all had sons, nor is there any guarantee that all the women married only men from their own parent tribe. So genetics were mixed in the beginning, yet once they separated, those farthest away from the Middle East would become more distinct genetic races. But the fact is that the bible does not reveal more than the sons of Javan and the sons of Gomer.
There can be several explanations for this. Often sons were named because they became strong individual tribes. Magog, Tubal, Mesech, and Tiras could have been smaller tribes at the beginning and kept their founders’ names rather than distinguishing them by their sons. This indicates they stayed together as a family for longer.
One example of tribes keeping the name of the main founding father is Kush, the son of Ham, and Misrajim, who was also a son of Ham. Although both of them had several sons, the land of Egypt remained called the land of Misrajim, and the land of Kush continued to be named after him.
While with Ham’s son Canaan, the sons’ tribes were often named instead. Like the Sidonites after his firstborn, Sidon, and the Jebusites and the Amorites, which are among the most mentioned in the Bible. Usually the land was named after the patriarch, and tribes after the patriarch’s sons. Canaan was given to West Africa, but most stayed in the Middle East, showing that not everyone went where they were supposed to at first. God patiently waited for Canaan for almost 500 years before pushing them out. This could have been the case with other tribes who did not go where they were supposed to.
In the Bible, God consistently calls the land after the patriarch who inhabited it. Sometimes, in prophecy, because of changes in territory through war, conflict, and displacement, God uses the four cardinal directions from His land, Jerusalem. Such as Kings of the East, King of the North, and King of the South. Or a group coming from a cardinal direction upon another.
When God later mentions Japhet’s tribes, he calls them by their founder’s name even over 1700 years after the flood. This proves that God knew very well who they were and that they were largely unmixed with other nations. God uses the names Magog, Tubal, and Meshech all the way up to Ezekiel’s time. However we learn they are together in one group with Magog as the strongest in a leading position.
When speaking of Gomer, God names two of Gomer’s tribes:
“Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands” (Ezek.38:6). “Bands” means tribes, and so they are many different tribes but all children of Gomer.
He also mentions Gomer’s son Ashkenaz: “call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her” (Jer.51:27)
Cimmerians were called G*M*R , Gamir by the Assyrians, and are likely one of the bands of GOMER. It became a powerful tribe in the region and raided Anatolia before being defeated by other tribes. This pushed the Phrygians (possibly a tribe of Meshech). A tribe of Tabal, settled in Anatolia, was also pushed out of the region by the Assyrians. No one knows for sure what happened to the Cimmerians, as they ceased being called that after they lost and were dispersed. Many believe some of them went west into Europe. The Bible mentions them in the 6th century as living and in cooperation with the nations in the Ararat region against Babylon. Scythians pushed the Crimmerians out of their territory in the immediate north. However, the Bible claims the bands of Gomer are still in the North during the Medo-Persian era, so many of Gomer’s tribes remained under different names. God differentiated Togarmah‘s bands and Ashkenaz, even though they are both of Gomer. This means three groups of Gomer were active and in connection with the Near East at the time. One is just called the bands of Gomer, which is likely the Cimmerians, as the Assyrians also just called them that. Another group, Togarmah, also had bands and lived north of Anatolia. And then it is Ashkenaz, who, unlike the other groups, is not said to have bands but appears to be a region or settlement close by Ararat/Urartu.
These Bible verses shows that God still distinguishes which tribes are descendants of whom, even so long after they were dispersed at Babel. Even after they called themselves by different names themselves. In the case of the sons of Gomer, they are mentioned with those of the Urartu and Caucasus regions, directly north of Israel and Assyria, and the land that leads northward to what we today call Russia. This is thereby in harmony with the Book of Jubilee, which was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, which placed the sons of Gomer in the Caucasus and northward into Russian territory. Many nations and people however in turn tried to take Anatolia and neighboring countries. The world is mixed up, but still have a majority of its original populations.
Japhet seemingly received a smaller share in Europe/Russia than Ham did in Africa and Shem did in Asia. However, the opposite was prophesied about Japhet’s descendants. The name Japhet means “expansion,” and in addition to the name meaning itself, Noah prophesied that the children of Japhet would expand their territories:
“God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.” In addition to expanding his own territory, Japhet was to expand into Shem’s territory as well” (Gen 9:27).
When we look at world history, we see European tribes expanding, especially into Asia and Oceania, of course, being given much more territory once they inhabited the Americas. No one has expanded their territory more than Japhet in the history of the world. This makes the tribes of Japheth start with smaller territories but end up with the largest territories, as prophesied. His territory “enlarged” to the west, and within Shem’s “tent” eastward. Making the tribes of Japhet the most powerful positioned among the three sons of Noah in our day. The empires God showed the prophet Daniel were to come after Babylon were mostly Japhetic. (The ancient Indians of the Americans have in part the same paternal mutations as Europeans – Showing that they were from the tribe of Japhet too)
Trading cities
In the first centuries after Babel, many nations that did not live in the Middle East or near it were nomadic at certain times of the year, often traveling there for trade and education as progress accelerated in these more populous regions. Because many tribes began spreading from Anatolia (today’s Turkey) and returning there for trade, they established flourishing city-states there.
There are several historical examples that Western European tribes had one group closer to the Middle East and another “back home” in the north or west. And groups traveling between them. A home place and a Middle Eastern post.
Because the Bible does not fully explain this, it is valid to examine the Assyrian Empire and the many texts they left behind to see whether they mention any of these tribes by name.
And they do mention the tribes of Tubal and Meshech having territories in Anatolia.
Among the Assyrian inscriptions is the King Tiglath-Pileser I (c. 1114–1076 BC) mentioning Mushki invading Anatolia with 20,000 men. The reason Mushki is believed to be descendants of Meshech is that the consonants are the same in Hebrew and Assyrian: M-Š-K vs. M-Š-K. And Mushki and the Phrygians are connected through Greek writings. And Medieval tradition ties the Phrygians with the Franks, from the same region.
Shalmaneser III (859–824 BC) is said to have campaigned against Tabal and neighboring kingdoms in central Anatolia.
King Tiglath-Pileser II (745–727 BC) receives tribute from the kings of Tabal. These show a trend among Assyrians of not believing that people in the territory they occupy have a right to it.
And Sargon II (722–705 BC) also mentions Tabal and Mushki. Records show campaigns against King Ambaris of Tabal and Mita of Mushki.
Another reason Mushki is thought to be descendants of Meshech is that the Assyrians speak of them together with Tubal, and so does God in the Bible. The Assyrian writings are very roughly contemporary with the Bible’s mentions of them.
Much of western Anatolia is associated with the Greeks, but the term Greek became broader as they increased, and many coastal groups of Japheth were later referred to as Greeks after the Greek empire became great. Having similar cultures and ways of life, close interaction, and coming from the same direction made these groups blend into one for those in the Middle East. These same groups were pushed out of Anatolia in turn, all in their own time.
Genetically, it is also hard to distinguish these tribes. Europe is consistently the same family, yet we can see clear traces of different founding fathers; however, because they have lived together for so long, they are all genetically related or “distant cousins”. So it is with language as well: most languages are Indo-European, stemming from the same root language.
Israel disrupts the Middle East trading network.
The famous city of Troy belonged to the Japhetic tribes. Troy was in conflict with the Greeks in their day, but that did not mean they were not all children of Japhet. The story of the city of Troy and the great conflict there is significant because several groups connected to Magog were also said to have been dispersed after the conflict. Among people that claim to have come from that conflict are the Romans (Aeneas), Franks (Francio or Priam), Britons (Brutus of Troy), Normans (Brutus), Scandinavians (Odin brought from Troy), Danes (Odin), Germans/Holy Roman Empire (Various Trojan founders), and Venetians (Antenor, Trojan refugee). Roughly 8–12 European nations or peoples have medieval traditions claiming descent from Troy. These, however, are legendary genealogies. And although they have been believed to have found the remains of Troy at Hisarlik, it cannot be determined beyond a doubt that the city found is actually Troy. It can almost seem as if Troy were the Japhetic tribes’ second version of Babel. Many were slow to disperse, and a conflict forced them to disperse. Historically, Troy was important because it controlled trade near the entrance to the Dardanelles, a strategic route between the Aegean and the Black Sea. The story that led to the dispersal of the people of Troy centers on Helen, a Greek woman who was taken by Paris, a prince of Troy. But as we trust the Bible first of all, we learn that another great factor would rearrange the lands of the Near East and cause the Bronze Age collapse. Historians date the fall of Troy to between 1250 and 1180 BCE in the Biblical era of the Judges, which lasted between 300 and 350 years. Satan is ever working to hide the past and history which connects people to the Bible and to God. Scholars have long fought against any legends that support creationism and the Bible’s narrative to what they want the truth to be. They have almost erased the story of Israel in the Middle East as insignificant or weak, while the opposite is true. This spiritual war makes it somewhat difficult to identify the people and places of Bible prophecy without constant conflict. But the truth is the truth nonetheless.
Several events led to the sons of Japheth dispersing from the Near East. The first great division after Babel was the Bronze Age collapse, c. 1200-1100 BC. It happened not long after Israel took Canaan around 1400 BC. The next two hundred years were marked by the uprooting of several tribes in the Near East. God had promised to secure the area for Israel, preventing great nations from forming around them or being a threat to them at its beginning. The Bronze Age collapse enabled King Solomon to become the only great king in the region and to subsequently have no enemies he could not handle. God brought about the great Bronze Age collapse to secure His people’s position in the “midst of the earth” (Gen. 48:16).
Israel disrupts the Middle East trading network.
It appears clear that the great Bronze Age collapse is tied to the conquest of Canaan. Historians, ignoring the Biblical records, say that the Bronze Age collapse was marked by the sudden decline of several major civilizations in the Eastern Mediterranean and Near East. “This era saw the destruction of cities, the collapse of trade networks, and the loss of literacy and advanced technologies. Key regions affected included Egypt, Anatolia, the Aegean, and the Balkans”. They say the causes of this collapse are still debated, but they likely include climate change, invasions, and internal strife, leading to a prolonged period known as the Dark Ages of that time. Something disrupted the usual interaction. When there is a war or people are occupied in war, as Israel was in Canaan, it often leads to other tribes seeing an opportunity to do what they want with less fear of retaliation from other nations. World History Encyclopedia+1Wikipedia.
Example from World History of Late Bronze age Mediterranean Trade c.1400-1200 BCE
Canaan was a major trading network and in alliance with many nations of its day. The territory was largely used as a trade network, and many upset with the Israeli invasion of the land did not wish to at first build new ties with Israel, nor did they with them. Israel’s position in the Middle East collapsed several trade networks; also, they in turn refused in the beginning to make covenants with the nations around them. They were different in religion and practices, quickly hated, and several groups affected tried to destroy them, including their closer neighbors the Moabites, Philistines, and Midianites. It was not just motivated by hate, but by the idea that Israel’s possession of the land also ruined their political and economic interests. During the biblical era of the judges, many nations tried to recover from the upheaval caused by Israel’s invasion. From another perspective, nations God had asked to spread who had not been doing so were withdrawing from the region and establishing new connections, further scattering the nations. While Ham and Kush were pushed southward. In this way, God managed to slow down a development that would have harmed the entire human family. Together with the Bronze Age collapse was also the Hittite collapse, a powerful mixed-group people in Anatolia, not to be confused with the Hittites in Canaan. The Hittites of Anatolia had a proto-European language.
“From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee” (Jos 1:4-5)
However, the Bronze Age collapse also gave the Assyrians, Chaldeans, and Arameans an opportunity to expand in several areas. Shem’s influence expanded in the Middle East, though many of his descendants moved further eastward. Likewise, the tribes of Japheth began to flourish in western Anatolia and around the Aegean Sea. They are not mentioned for the longest time because they are not an immediate threat to Israel or Judah.
They don’t know the exact time for the collapse and a lot of the dates are guesswork. What they can see is a shift in culture, trade, and destroyed cities around this time.
How big was the trade collapse ?
In Deuteronomy 7:1 it says: “When the Lord your God brings you into the land which you go to possess, and has cast out many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you…” (New King James Version)
God also says about Israel: “The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the fewest of all peoples.” (Deut.7:7)
So how big was Israel? The census recorded in Numbers 26:51 gives a very specific total:
601,730 men (aged 20 and older, capable of serving in the army). In addition, there would be women and children and those not capable of serving in the army, leaving us with a number no less than 2 million people. Now, if there were seven nations in and around Canaan that were greater than that, you would be talking about the displacement and/or end of at least 14 million people if they were the same size as Israel, and far more than 14 million if they were greater in number as God indicates. Moses also explains that they are “mightier”, showing they were not an easy prey if it were not for God’s interventions. Many were killed when Israel took the land, and others left the territory to join other nations or lands, and other smaller groups remained and intermingled with Israel. God also sent natural disasters to chase them off the land.
“And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword” (Jos 10:11).
Even using animals:
“Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed.” Deut.7:20
Exodus 23:27 says God would throw the nations into confusion. The Book of Deuteronomy 7:22 states that God would not remove them all at once, but would do so gradually. This is consistent with the great Bronze Age collapse, which did not happen overnight but over a period between Israel’s conquest of the land and the first King of Israel. It began as a quick invasion but then led to the slow exhaustion of the nations around.
The tribe of Dan and the Greeks
As a calamity was unfolding in the Middle East, Japhet strengthened his independence in his own lands. The first Israeli tribe to interact extensively with the western territories around the Mediterranean was Dan. The Israeli tribe that left God first and strayed for the longest. Not even mentioned among the saved 144,000 in the book of Revelation, when all the other tribes of Israel are mentioned. The portion that fell to Dan had a great port at Jaffa during Israel’s time. It is also where Tel Aviv is today, the first capital of the modern state of Israel. It’s also where the prophet Jonah boarded a ship bound for Tarshish to flee God and his calling. Hence the boat going from their city to Tarshish, a Javanite city. The Israeli tribe of Dan became a great sea people who often mingled with the children of Javan and Japhet. We know this interaction was already taking place during the era of the Judges during the Bronze Age collapse. Early on, after Israel’s invasion, the Bible records: “and why did Dan remain in ships?” (Judg.5:17). A great sigh from the prophetess Deborah, who was busy defending God’s territory and people, while implying the tribe of Dan was occupied with maritime or trading activities instead of coming to fight. They only cared for their own affairs.
The tribe of Dan mingled with the Greeks and lived as them. Some Excavations in the ancient northern city of Dan in Israel reveal a strong Greek influence and way of life, to the point that some scholars wondered whether the city was perhaps Greek. Other historical sources claim that the tribes of Dan even lived in large part among the Greeks, who were then the broad term for all the tribes of Japheth to the west and those who lived as them. They were called Danaoi, and later they were just called Greeks as the people blended into one. And they were central to the story of the Trojan War, whose dates are not accurately certain but are thought to be around the time of the Biblical judges. The coalition that attacked Troy and forced the Trojans into Europe is said to have consisted of the Danaoi, Achaeans, and Argives. So the Bible confirms Dan’s close ties in the Mediterranean at the same time as other historians mention a tribe called the same fighting alongside the Greeks. Same alliance, same time, same name. The famous, often portrayed leaders in the Trojan conflict, Odysseus and Achilles, were actually of the tribe of the Danaoi. Although it would be a bitter pill to swallow for most Greeks and Bible critics of today, even Hollywood, the great “Greek” heroes might have actually been from the tribe of Israel. Ancient sources say that Danaus, who became King of Argos, fled from Egypt to prevent his daughters from having to marry Egyptians (Aeschylus, The Suppliants (5th century BC); Apollodorus, Bibliotheca; Pausanias, Description of Greece). Whether a group of Dan had fled before the Exodus or arrived shortly during the judges’ era and were seen as Egyptian immigrants rather than Canaanites cannot be said for sure.
The now-famous Greek heroes were members of the tribe of the Danaoi, living in Greek territories, especially Argos. It was very common to secure ports along trade routes in the ancient world. The Danaoi were said to have fled Egypt before settling among the Greeks. After the battle at Troy, they were considered Greeks.
Another great, proud legend of the Greeks is Heracles (Hercules), whose story is similar to that of the Biblical Samson. Samson came from the tribe of Dan and also lived there. The two cultures were intertwined, and it is not unnatural that an ally with superpowers would have become a great mythological hero in their mixed communities and eventually just seen as a Greek myth. Both characters had supernatural strength, both killed a lion with their bare hands, and both used improvised weapons, and both had relationships with women that brought them great suffering. Both died a tragic death. ‘Heracles’ stories, however, are full of fairy tales, although claimed to have been a real person. This was usually how ancient gods came to be. A real important figure and generations of myths added to it. The ancient Greeks would have seen someone like Samson, with super strength, as a semi-god because they would have rejected the Biblical narrative of the source and purpose of his powers. Heracles is said to have been the first to attack Troy over a promise not kept regarding the King’s daughter. Then the next generation is said to be the great Trojan war, with the Danaoi as part of the alliance to take down the city. Samson was a judge in Dan when Dan was in close contact with the early Greeks, and while the Danaoi had territory among the Greeks. For a seafaring people, it was important to have hold on ports along a trading route. All the great seafaring cultures of the day settled in coastal cities along their main trading routes or areas to protect those routes. Only in Dan’s case, they began populating southern Japhaite territories. In genetic research, a vast paternal haplogroup originating in the Middle East, J-M304, is found in southern Europe and is overwhelmingly common in Greek territories; its earliest entry in Europe is likely tied to the tribe of Dan. One of their main ports was in Argos. Later Greek writers stopped using the term Danaoi, and it became a poetic or archaic name for the Greeks, erasing their true origin and merging them into a single group of ancient Greeks. However, the Danaoi were said to have fled from Egypt, while the real Greeks came from Hellen. His father was said to have survived a flood. His descendants are the Greek tribes: Dorians, Ionians, Achaeans, and Aeolians. The land called Greece in English today is still called after Hellen, and in Greek it is still called Ellas, the land of the Hellenes. In ancient Greek literature, the name originally referred only to the small region in Thessaly, but later came to mean the entire Greek world. This is significant, as the region around Thessaly, especially to the north, is Macedon, the homeland of Alexander the Great, who united vast territories into the Greek Empire. So both descendants of the tribe of Dan and Javan make up the Greeks of today.
Only a part of Dan remained in northern Israel and was later displaced by the Assyrians.
In the Judges era. Samson was called to free Israel from their enemies close to their border, the Philistines, which the Bible explains were from Caphtor (Krete). But Samson’s quest against them is disrupted by his love for their women, which eventually strips him of his powers and brings him down.
Samson, a Biblical antihero with unusual strength, was from the tribe of Dan.
Often, the expansion of the Israelite tribes is simply called Phoenician expansion. This is because historians who do not take the Bible seriously often group time and culture together without considering that it involves different groups living in the same way. Over time, these groups became practically indistinguishable. Many historians, puzzled by the Phoenicians’ genetics, have found so much paternal DNA similar to that of ancient Israel that they have concluded Israel was never a distinct people who conquered the land, but rather the Canaanites themselves.
This is because a significant amount of Phoenician and even Philistine DNA closely resembles Jewish DNA, and some samples labeled as Phoenician are actually from pagan Israelites rather than true Phoenicians (From the tribe of Ham). Israel was originally told to spread into Lebanon, which also suggests that much of Israel displaced the ancient Canaanite genetic pool in these territories, further blurring the distinction between the groups. What happened to the tribe of Dan with the Greeks also happened to the northern tribes with the Phoenicians. The Bible claims they intermingled religiously and culturally, and through marriages, making them, in our day, appear to modern archeologists as descendants of the same group of people at the same time and place. Even the infamous queen Jezebel was a daughter of Sidon married into the royal house of Israel, bringing Sidonian culture there. Many settlements in the Mediterranean that were called Phoenician were actually part of ancient Israel’s trading posts. Several of Judah’s kings were said to have engaged in extensive trade with distant nations.
During the reign of King Solomon, they were at the forefront of trade in the region, even using big ships. Little is found from Israel’s greatest period, which has made them appear invisible to modern researchers unable to make all the connections.
Although at the time of Judges Dan was especially connected to the Greeks, they later used the port of Tyre in today’s Lebanon (Phoenician city): “Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs” (Eze 27:19) Tyre became a great trading port in the Middle East, used by both Israel and Dan, the Greeks, the Phoenicians, and the people of the Near East.
God judged this port because of the ungodliness that spread from there, and it was brought down first by Nebuchadnezzar II, then by the Persians, and finally by Alexander the Great. The era of Nebuchadnezzar is the second great collapse in the Near East after the Bronze Age collapse. It is written in detail in the Bible, and lists all the nations that were affected and displaced or destroyed during this time. This included the Assyrians, Israel, Edom, and more. Only this time, rather than chaos, it was suppression. The Babylonian Empire grew in power while controlling the nations and destroying the opposition.
The next pull from the tribes of Israel into the territory of Japheth was completely different and under very different circumstances than Dan’s integration with the Greeks. And the third great pull did not integrate easily at all.
The Collapse of the Israeli and Judean Kingdoms
As Israel became more and more corrupt, they just took over the role the Canaanites had in the region. God explains that they became an abomination in the land, as they mingled truth and error. And in many cases became worse than even the nations around them when it came to violence and sin.
God had to give up on Israel and allowed the Assyrians to conquer them. The period of Israel and Judah’s collapse strengthened both Assyria and, later, Babylon, which defeated Assyria.
The great trading ports in those days were the ports of Tyre and Sidon, which often had to pay tribute to Assyrian kings (Tiglath-Pileser III, Sargon II (722–705 BC). They had become the central trade post for ships between the descendants of Shem, Ham and Japhet.
In relation to these city ports we hear mention of Tubal and Meshech once again along with their brother Javan. About the city of Tyre God says: “Javan, Tubal, and Meshech, they were thy merchants: they traded the persons of men and vessels of brass in thy market..” (Eze.27:13)
In the book of Joel we learn that the children of Judah were sold to the Greeks and taken to Japhet’s territory: “The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians (Javanites), that ye might remove them far from their border” (Joe 3:6).
This scripture indicates that the descendants of Javan brought the slaves far from the Near Eastern islands they often are associated with. Another verse explains further:
“And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles” (Isa 66:19).
The rest of Israel who were not sold as slaves to the Greeks were dispersed into Babylon and the Near East, a territory today often called Kurdistan, and Iran, and Iraq, and the Caucasus regions. Many of those taken to Babylon returned to Jerusalem and rebuilt the temple.
With these biblical verses in mind, we know that many of the children of Israel and Judah became one with the children of Japheth. A trend we can see in genetics in southern Europe. We know the Greeks expanded greatly during the time when Judah and Israel were sold into slavery. The greatest wave of Greek colonization occurred roughly between 750 BC and 550 BC. During those two centuries, Greek settlers established colonies from:
Slaves from Judah were likely taken to all the places of the Greek expansion and made to help build these cities. The majority never returned to Israel. The Greeks also traded slaves later on with the Romans.Many believe that the paternal haplogroup J is found among the descendants of Abraham. It’s found across most Abrahamic territories. Especially Arabia, which was largely untouched by wars and displacement, and among many ancient and modern descendants of Israel. We can see how this gene is widespread across southern Europe today, in the millions. Most have no idea of their origin and are genetically mixed with the nations they have lived in for over 2500 years. Many are today Christians.
Spain, southern France, Italy and Sicily, North Africa, the Black Sea, and parts of the eastern Mediterranean. Other cities that were expanded during the same period were Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thebes, Argos, Miletus, and Ephesus. The likelihood of slaves existing in these cities was great. Cities that were being built and in need of slaves were Syracuse 734 BC (in Sicily), Naxos in 734BC (in Sicily) , Cumae (In Italy) 750 BC, Taras in 706 BC (Southern Italy), Byzantium in 667 (Istanbul, Turkey), Massalia in c.600 BC (France, city of Merseille), Cyrene in c.631 BC (Libya), Naucratis in c620-570 BC (In Egypt), Olbia c.650 BC (in Ukreine), Chersonesus 5th centuary (In Crimea) and Apollonia Pontica in early 7th centuary BC (In Bulgaria). During the early Roman Empire, many of the Greek slaves were sold to the Romans as well.
The Greeks enslaved people to build cities and infrastructure, and had them work in mines and in households. And the more slaves, the more enriched a nation became, as they could have rapid growth. As the captives taken to Babylon and the nearby regions of the Near East in large part returned to the land of Israel and rebuilt, preparing for the coming of the Messiah, the sold and scattered Israel in the lands of Japhet had, in large part, blended in and adopted the languages there and become a mixed family through marriages. As the curse had said: “And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other…” (Deuteronomy 28:64) “For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people,” Isaiah prophesied. (Isaiah 28:11). The verse shows how the gospel would one day be presented to these scattered in another language than Hebrew, showing that they themselves would no longer speak Hebrew and therefore need to hear it in their own new languages. Many of Israel and Judah sold into slavery to the Japhet tribes did not keep their mother tongue or their culture but adapted. They did not keep a strong biblical religion, because they did not have it when they were scattered. Israel had been paganized a long time before, already following the superstitions and ideas of the pagans. The Bible says the children of Judah followed that trend but had greater knowledge and adherence to Jewish traditions than their northern brethren.
The third pull into Western Europe for Jews was during the Roman Empire; they kept their culture in large part and are therefore, by most, the only ones considered to be Jews today. But Israel was scattered and largely blended in long before that. The Jews who, during Roman times, remained Jewish in name only represent only a small part of ancient Israel.
The origins of Rome can be traced back to the city of Babel, both in a physical sense and a spiritual one. After the flood, God instructed Noah’s sons and their descendants to spread out: “And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth” (Gen. 9:1).
Along with the command to spread out, God granted them the following permission to fulfill His directive:
“And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things” (Gen 9:2-3)
We see God sending them out into the world as what evolutionists have classified as “hunters and gatherers”. One reason God permitted hunting and the use of animals for food was to prevent people from remaining together in one place due to dependence on annual farming. By allowing them to hunt and eat meat, they were free to move over greater distances and disperse more rapidly.
However, the descendants of Noah immediately felt fear at the thought of being scattered and wanted to remain together. They believed that what God asked was not in their best interests, and the uncertainty of the unknown left them feeling insecure. In direct opposition to God’s command, they said:
“let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth” (Gen.11:4)
The remains of an ancient, gigantic boat matching the Bible’s measurements in the mountains of Urartu were researched by Ron Wyatt; later scans of the site revealed it is a man-made structure. This finding is consistent with the Biblical story of the origin of people today. Genetic research shows all men today are descendants of a small group of people.
We know from historical geography that Noah’s ark landed in the region of Urartu, also known as the mountains of Ararat, in today’s eastern Turkey, near the Iranian border. This mountain region extends down to the large, fertile plain between the rivers Euphrates and Tigris—a plain that begins in southern Turkey and stretches to the Persian Gulf. This vast plain was called Mesopotamia by the Greeks, meaning ‘the land between the rivers,’ but it was known as the land of Shinar by the Semitic-speaking tribes.
The Tower of Babel was likely built in the northern section of this plain, in today’s Şanlıurfa Province. The later city of Babylon was built further south on the same plain. Many ancient cities and ruins have been discovered in the north, including several sites that may once have been cities with towers. However, because so many early settlements have been found in this area, it is difficult to determine which one was the city of Babel, especially if the tower has collapsed and become overgrown. Because of a large dam built by Turkey, many ancient historical sites are now submerged beneath the waters of the Euphrates River.
It might seem illogical to leave a mountain region to build a tower on a plain, especially when the mountains were still nearby. Even a mountain range continued to the east all the way to the Persian Gulf. If their intention was to be elevated, why not construct the tower on the hills rather than on the flat plain?
The tower was likely intended as a safeguard as they moved down to the fertile lands by the river to begin farming. In this way, they believed they could have the best of both worlds: a tower to retreat to in case of another flood, a better climate, and the rich soil of the plain. These groups did not trust that another flood would never return—they lacked faith in God’s promises. Instead, they tried to analyze the situation with reason, seeking to understand if and how such a disaster could happen again. Their desire was to rely on their own ability to save themselves if another catastrophe occurred. Fear drove people to seek security and strong leaders; as a result, those leading the city and tower project gained significant power. Anyone who did not remain in their favor would lose access to the security and unity they promised. The builders hoped to establish the capital of the world, shaping future generations according to their own ideas and morals.
Many remains from the time of Babel and onward have been found in the Sanli urfra province. Many of the sites are now underwater due to dams on the Euphrates. Archaeologists are trained not to find connections with the Bible and will usually just call these ancient settlements Akkadian. Many of these elevated old structures are near the remains of an ancient city, indicating a culture in the region that built elevated fortresses and cities. The second archaeological site in this photo had its now-buried city remains researched, and many skeletons were found in a grave with damaged skulls, a sign of a massive battle.
The Babel-Flood connection
Such hierarchies were partly responsible for causing the flood in the first place. The Bible describes the conditions on earth before the flood:
“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown” (Gen 6:4).
The word ‘powerful’ here can also mean a tyrant, giant, or strong man. Rather than referring to demon-human hybrids, which many popular preachers do, the verse is likely describing how those once faithful to God fell away through intermarriage with ungodly women, causing them to abandon their principles. From these unions arose powerful tyrants and leaders.
In the Bible, ‘sons of God’ refers to those who follow God, not those who have rebelled against Him.
As a response to the men’s actions, God responded: “My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years” (Gen 6:3).
This shows that the “sons of God” mentioned were humans, not angels, as God’s response is directed at men.
Throughout Israel’s history, their downfall often came when God’s people married pagan wives. Since women typically educated the children, they shaped the future of the nation. Whenever God’s men married pagan women, they strayed from the truth. Even in the first fall of man, Adam was not deceived by the serpent but by his love for his disobedient wife (Gen. 3:6). The problem was not women themselves, but when men allowed their desires to cloud their judgment, leadership, and sense of duty.
One example of a similar situation occurred when Israel was tempted to take Midianite wives at the border of the Promised Land, leading them to mix paganism with God’s truth. It led to the death of many. King Solomon, known as the wise king, became foolish after marrying many pagan wives: “And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father.” (1 Kings 11:6) “For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods…” (1 Kings 11:4)
Another example is King Ahab, who married Jezebel, a pagan royal from Sidon, leading the whole land of Israel into pagan practices and the killing and persecution of God’s prophets.
And the union between the sons of men with the beautiful but idolatrous women before the flood led to similar situations. God told Noah the earth was filled with violence.
“And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth” (Gen 6:12-13).
The verse in Genesis 6 explains how all the earth ended up being filled with violence, how everyone ended up leaving God. The children of such a compromise of faith became powerful men who dictated a new way of life to others. The most dangerous combination of deception has always been and will also be the mingling of truth and error. When you have two clear sides that oppose each other, it is fairly easy to navigate and hard to be deceived. When lust comes before virtue and duty, it sets off a negative chain reaction that a society as a whole has to pay for. The bible gives us very few details on what actually happened before the flood apart from three things: men were controlled by their lust for women, the world ended up a violent place, and that it was under the control of a few mighty men. Not unlike our world today. Likely there are, of course, many more aspects to what happened, yet God chose to point out these three evils as the main cause of what made everything spiral out of control.
God had no influence over them; they would not listen, and they would not stop the spree of violence. Only Noah and his family were left alive of those following Him, and He was not going to allow them to kill or destroy the last family as well. Rather, God would turn the tables and save the last remaining family.
When the descendants of Noah began forming alliances and seeking ways to control one another, led by a new group of powerful men such as Nimrod, God knew He had to act, or the situation would quickly return to what it had been before the flood. A world controlled by tyrants who mingled truth and error, leading to the great falling away and ultimately their own destruction.
About Nimrod the Bible says:
“And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD” (Gen 10:8-9)
If the city of Babel would succeed in their plans, God’s faithful would not stand a chance. But neither would humans be free. What looked like peace and security was only an illusion of control. What looked like saviors were the predators.
The first kings of Mesopotamia are depicted in discovered reliefs portraying them as saviors. The very same wild beasts God had said he would protect them from, they claimed they were protecting them from, taking God’s place in their hearts or as mediators of God’s protection. The leaders used superstition and desire for safety to elevate their own power. A savior is always looked upon with reverence – and with it came permission to dictate the rules of the land. By scattering the people from Babel, God took leadership from a few hands and spread it among many, making it easier for the people to have a say in their own future. One corrupt king could easily be taken down among many kings and people, but if only a few powerful individuals controlled the masses, the people would be unable to act if the leadership became despotic. And in part it was this God tried to save them from.
A beastly government In the bible, governmental institutions that take a God-like position in people’s lives are symbolized as beasts. They take God’s place, they divert people’s adoration to themselves, and they dictate laws that violate God’s laws with the approval of the people. Nothing is as effective in controlling a group of people as to play on superstition and fear and then present yourself as the savior. At the time of Babel, everyone could see the aftereffects of the flood clearly, and using this, to them, natural disaster to create fear was the perfect way to convince them to stay together and give up freedom for peace and security.
What God was preventing at Babel, Jesus explained, ought never to be the methods of Christians. They must never become a beastly government in His name. Never to follow in the footsteps of Babel:
“Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant” (Mat 20:25-27)
God creates tribes
In Babel, the Bible says: “And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth” (Gen 11:1-9)
Nimrod and the strongest remained closer to the area as conflicts quickly rose after the calamity. God confusing the languages did not just cause a rift between the people, but also created a renewed bond and alliance among those who shared the same language. By it, God influenced who went where and with whom, creating strong, separate tribes.
The strongest in the conflict, men such as Nimrod, stayed in the region and built several now-known historical cities.
Sargon, the first great king of Akkad, bears similar traits to Nimrod and is by some thought to be the Nimrod in the Bible. His grandson, Naram-Sin, took land all the way down to southern Shinar, where the Babylonian capital would later rise.
“And the beginning of his (Nimrod’s) kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.” (Gen 10:10)
It was at this time that the tribes of Japheth began moving toward their allotted territory in the west. Genetically, the descendants of Noah had already interbred, so many tribes did not consist of a single paternal lineage. Nevertheless, God grouped them into tribes based on close family ties, either through marriage or ancestry. Most of the genetics we see today come from this mixed genetic pool at Babel, except for those who stayed behind in the Urartu region.
Choosing a nation
Just as God had scattered the tribes at Babel, only one thing could prevent the rapid rise of another world-dominating power: a strong presence of people allied with God. The largest populations initially settled directly north, south, west, and east of Babel, and many did not move far at first. The far-reaching influence of Babel is evident worldwide, as many ancient cultures shared similar religious concepts, especially those connected to nature and sun worship.
Before the flood, only Noah and his family remained. The rest of God’s people had either been killed or deceived. At Babel, the conditions began to look the same, and even though the people spread, they did so with the same religious ideas that had led them away from God. First, a combination of true and false worship which merged into what the bible calls idolatry. Although God had separated the tribes, he spoke of them in uniform regarding religion. For there are only two religions in the Bible, that of the “goy” or nations, which is paganism, and that of God’s people who worship the true God and follow God’s laws. Between the two groups are those who blend the two, which is called an abomination. The confusion of Babel’s religion was so devastating that only one man—Abraham—remained completely faithful to God in the years that followed. Even Abraham’s wider family had gone astray, and if he had remained with them, his future descendants would have been affected. Amid the nations, God wanted to establish a land that would represent Him to the world—a kingdom of priests, a light in the darkness, and a hope amid strife and death. From the land of Shinar, God called Abraham to journey to the land promised to him, giving him the task of becoming the forerunner of such a kingdom. It was God’s plan that, from the territory Canaan had taken—land not originally given to him—God would restrain any attempts at world domination through the witness and influence of His people. This land would also serve to keep Egypt, Cush, Javan, and the kingdoms of Mesopotamia divided, preventing them from forming a single powerful empire.
The Middle East was the great meeting point for the tribes of Shem, Japheth, and Ham—a place where all the tribes interacted through trade and education. God placed His land in the center of these peoples: Shem and the kings of the east to the east, Ham to the south, and Japheth to the west, with the near north belonging to Shem and the far north to Japheth. The Middle East has always been a hub of major trading networks. When Canaan strategically positioned itself in the middle and became severely corrupt and powerful, the territory became especially important to seize.
The map in the Book of Jubilees shows that the world was divided into three parts: Shem to the east, Ham to the south, and Japheth to the west and north. Israel and Jerusalem (red dot) were to be positioned at the crossroads of the three as a light, educator in truth, and judge in the world. When they failed, powerful empires rose that deceived and misguided the world.
It was only after Israel failed in their mission that the great Middle Eastern empires arose, beginning with the Babylonian Empire, which unified the Middle East and territories beyond. Because of Babylon’s power, other nations felt compelled to follow its example—not only to secure their own dominance but also to prevent other powerful nations from subduing them. Medo-Persia followed Babylon’s lead, expanding its empire across the Middle East; the Greek Empire did the same, and then the Roman Empire established itself as the new center of the world. Eventually, Western European nations colonized vast regions worldwide through religion, diplomacy, alliances, colonization, and military campaigns.
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