Magog – The provoker in the end times
See all the parts to find out who Gog and Magog is:
Part 1: Why is God targeting the sons of Japhet?
Part 2:Human development after the flood – and its relevance today.
Part 3: When The World Was Divided – Identifying Magog!
Part 4: Magog – The provoker in the end times
Extra: Explaining haplogroups
Why has God waited to judge Magog?
The descendants of Japhet received in large part the gospel and became claimed followers of Christ. It is also from the lands of Japhet missionaries sent all over the world: “And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles” (Isa.66:19) Upon receiving the gospel they also God’s special attention. Unfortunately, where the truth prospers, the counterfeiters will feed off that. Within Japhet we therefore see God’s people and those who falsly claim to be God’s people. This was the case with the other powers represented in the statute in Daniel chapter 2. Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, and Rome, and divided Rome, all had God’s people scattered among them. Christ gives a parable where He shows that He will not judge the area where there are both “wheat” and “tares” until the end. “But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them” (Mat 13:29). While apostate Christians have persecuted faithful Christians in Europe, it has also been the place the gospel spread after Jerusalem. This means that these lands will receive the hardest judgment because their light and opportunity have been the greatest.
First, the Catholic church falsely claimed the right to be Christ’s voice on earth, and then as protestants distanced themselves from her, they too started persecuting each other.
In Revelation 12 we see the Roman beast persecuting the woman “the true church”, but God also makes way for a new land where God’s people could practice their faith and spread the gospel in peace: “And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.” Rev 12:15-16
America became an escape for Christian pilgrims and for a long time, the country fought for everyone’s right to practice their faith in peace. This made America the perfect place for God’s people to share the gospel with the world.
America – Japhets “enlarged” lands?
Noah prophesied: “God shall enlarge Japheth…” (Gen.9:27). When all lands appeared to be settled, Europeans moved to land in large part empty, the American continent. Although native Americans have not always been treated right, it should be noted that it appears God sent the Europeans (tribes of Japhet) to the land. Europe was about to become severely overpopulated. Population growth rocketed especially between 1700 and 1900.
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God moving part of Europe’s population to America seems to have reduced the dangers overpopulation could have done to Europe. America was severely underpopulated for its size at the time. When looking into the genetic paternal haplogroups, the European R gene once had a common forefather with the Q gene which most native Americans had and have.
In the book of Revelation 12, we see “the earth” rescuing the “woman/Church” from the persecution on the old Roman territory. The largely populated Europe and Near East are compared to a sea: “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues” (Rev 17:15). The beast with the ten horns, as we have identified as the tribes of Japhet come up out of the sea: “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy” (Rev 13:1).
The second beast in Revelation does not come out of the sea but “the earth”, the same place that once helped the woman/church. The enlarged (?) area of the tribes of Japhet: “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him” (Rev 13:11-12)
These two beasts are both the powers of Magog, Meshech, and Tubal situated on each end of the Atlantic Ocean, with a common goal and pursuit. The last end up behaving as the first. For a long time, the Roman beast with the ten European tribes was the strongest, first pagan than papal. Then, Revelation tells us that the new land will become strongest in the end, but it ends up behaving like the first beast.
How did the first beast in Revelation 13 behave? It claimed to represent God’s voice on earth and created alliances to help it with its goal of being the spiritual and physical superpower of the world. The consequence was that those God had chosen were persecuted and silenced. If all preach Christ why does it matter? Satan has presented a false gospel to the world, and the result of this false gospel is that millions will be lost thinking they are saved. The new gospel has taken the cross away from Christ the high priest and away from His Sanctuary. Once the cross is removed from the law, there is no atonement. Once the priest is removed from the temple, there is no mediator. This is the crime of Catholics, protestants, and evangelicals. They “steal” God’s truth, God’s treasures, and “God’s name” and blend them with the unholy religious ideas of man.
When Christ came to His own, they did not receive Him, they did not even like Him. (John.1) They did not recognize their Lord because they had misrepresented and misunderstood who God was. Still, they made themselves God’s messengers. The truth was not evident until the false representation of God met Christ Himself. They sang about the Shekinah glory, they praised God’s deliverance and his law, yet strongly disliked the true manifestation of all three.
In the same way, many Christian groups have high thoughts of their calling today as well. Had they met the real Christ they would have rejected Him just like the Jewish leaders did. Heaven knows this by how Christ’s true representatives are treated by them. If they reject Christ’s messengers they prove that they also would have rejected Christ if they met Him.
This is why false Christianity is a big deal. When the Jews represented God falsely and persecuted the real representation, their probation was over. The same goes with the Christian churches and nations. When they think and say they represent God to the world, God’s judgment will come as a surprise to them. For God knows those professing to represent Him would have killed Christ again if he had come among them. For He is not the Christ they wanted and had imagined.
IS MAGOG RUSSIA?
Magog cannot be just designed for Moscow as many evangelicals eagerly do, and claiming the war of Gog and Magog is a war between Russia and modern Israel. Although Western Russia does have descendants from Magog, it is not enough to be called Magog alone. Genetics show Western Russia has mostly the same genetics as Eastern Europe. Either Western Russia together with Europe is Magog, or they are not at all. For they come from the same forefathers. They can not be Magog alone. Jews in Israel also carry Magog genes after being dispersed in Europe. This does not make them Magog either. Evangelists have long considered Russia the enemy because of communism. However, the cradle of the spread of communism, modern atheism, and socialism was Western Europe. USA, Europe, and Russia in a cold war have scared the world for a long time.
Is Magog in Armageddon?
There are two great conflicts involving Jerusalem in our day or future. One is the Armageddon and the other is the Gog and Magog conflict. This makes many think the two events are the same event.
This leads us to inspect the different times of the two conflicts, and as we will see, it is not the same event, although it appears to be the same aggressors.
Armageddon is mentioned in Revelation, during the sixth plague. This is the time when “the kings of the east” are mentioned. The kings of the east were mostly in the Bible always the tribes of Shem. Notice, however, that the kings of the east are not the instigators and aggressors in the Gog and Magog war. They are only mentioned as “kings of the east” in Armageddon. The instigators in the Armageddon conflict are the “dragon, beast, and false prophet”.
Let us examine the verses: “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon” (Rev 16:12-16).
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The US and Europe are the leading voices uniting the world under the idea that it will bring peace and safety to everyone. But are they really doing that, or just offering the illusion of it?
In the Bible the destruction of Jerusalem the first time is a type of the destruction of the world in the end time. In the years leading on to the events, the people were confronted by two conflicting messages. One was from the leaders and priests preaching “safety and peace”. They claimed Babylon would not take Jerusalem, that they were God’s people, and that God would save them. This appeared like a god-fearing message showing faith. But they were not telling the truth.
“They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace” (Jer 6:14)
The other voice was Jeremiah, warning them that the end was coming whether they were ready or not, and so they needed to prepare:
“Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.” (Jer.14:13-14)
In the days prior to Christ’s second coming we will see the same deception. The false Christian movements will claim God is with them when He is not.
The dragon, beast, and false prophet use their “mouth” which is speech, propaganda, and legislation, to get the “kings of the earth and the whole world” together in their objective, which is a war against God. Meaning, they are defying God’s rule and decisions. The Bible even says what the words of propaganda used to defend their legislations are. In both 1 Thessalonians and Revelation 16 we see the same event is described with similar keywords. Christ coming as a thief and a group of deceivers uttering propaganda only here we know what they say: “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief” (1Th 5:2-4).
Both the Pope, the USA, and Europe have long been doing “peace work” and “peace propaganda” and convincing the world that their solution, their wars, and their religion, are the only thing to keep the world from falling apart. They use “peace” and “freedom” as an excuse while engaging in war and conflict. This peace is an illusion and will not save the world from the end, instead, it will ensure people’s eternal damnation. The West has been feeding the world with immorality, satanic culture, trafficking, and unfair trade while at the same time claiming to be the voice of either reason or the voice of God.
As a result of the gathering seen in Revelation 16, an angel is sent to “plague” this gathering, and make way for the kings of the east. Placing them in the way of their plans for the Middle East. Or the war could be imminent and God has held the kings of the east back for as long as He could.
Now as we can see from the larger setting, the plagues in Revelation 16 are plagues especially directed at the beast and its followers. Meaning the kings of the East are present in this conflict by God’s design.
In the battle of Armageddon, the big problem is “the beasts”. The beast is the Pope and Europe, the dragon is pagan Rome, now pagan Europe, and the “false prophet” is apostate Protestantism, of which the United States is the leader (protestant nations in Europe have become atheist/new pagan/spiritualism). Again we see Japhet’s children in the beast, the false prophet, and even the dragon. The three represent each three great deceptions.
The plague of the king of the east is God’s plague upon them. Meaning the tribes of Shem, descendants of Ishmael, Assyrians, Arameans, Semites, ancient Israel now among the King of the east, and so on. Euphrates runs through southern Turkey (Kurdish, Semite), Syria (Assyria, Semite), and Iraq (mostly Semite). And then in Iran, we have both Semites in the south (Elam) and most likely Japhet (Medai) mixed with them. But Iran is not connected to the Euphrates, the river mentioned in the sixth plague.
The “bad guys” in Armageddon are similar to the “bad guys” of Gog and Magog, but the time of the Armageddon battle is right before Christ’s second coming, and His coming is in part to fight the “beast, dragon, and false prophet” and save Gods people from them as revealed in Revelation 19. They have waged war against God, and while they are held back by the kings of the east, Christ comes to “take care of them” himself:
“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone” (Rev 19:11-20)
The main culprits of the Armageddon war are the ones leading the world into deception and defiance against God’s law. They, like Nimrod, are trying to control the world under one government while simultaneously claiming to be “saving the world”. They, like the Papacy, try to enforce a false gospel while discriminating and persecuting the true messengers of God. Many want God to be angry at China, or some other nations. To them, they are the biggest threat. However, although their crimes are great, God’s attention is first upon those who claim to speak on His behalf falsely.
The word Armageddon comes from the Hebrew Har-mo-ade’, and refers to Jerusalem and the mountain of gathering. The Mountain of Gathering again refers to God’s times and laws, as His law and throne were there and the gathering in Jerusalem took place at his feasts.
Naturally, the “beast”, “dragon” and “the false prophet” do not attempt to gather all kings and nations in Jerusalem. There would be no room or purpose.
What they most likely do instead, is make decisions regarding the area, which they get the nations to agree upon. Or it has a symbolic value and refers to the beast’s war against God’s times as mentioned before: “(And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws – Dan 7:25).
All the apostate religions are today represented in the old Jerusalem. Catholicism, Orthodox, protestant, evangelical, Jewish, and Muslim. Everyone thinks they are chosen and speak on God’s behalf and each group represents their people in Jerusalem.
In addition, the “beast, dragon, and false prophet” will gather a group called “them” there as well. “And they gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon” (Rev.16:16).
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Army of Magog? The map shows the NATO alliance between the children of Japhet in the west. They have one common army, one common goal and pursuit. USA and the Roman beast with its divisions stand together as the prophecy says but under the lead and strength of the USA.
What side is Modern Israel on?
Although explaining the battle’s core topic is better left for another time, it is important here to understand that modern Israel is in alliance with “the bad guys” of Armageddon, and not the plague (the kings of the east). This makes modern Israel subjected to the plague of the king of the east.
Togarmah.
So what about Torgarmah? Togarmah is not just one tribe they, as all the other grandchildren of Noah, have become a multitude of tribes. The greatest strongest tradition is in Georgia and Armenia, which claim they are descendants of Togarmah. They claim Togarmah’s son was called “Caucas” and the name is the origin of the “Caucasus Mountains”. Just as the Bible said: “Togarmah of the north quarters”. Many of them of course spread into Russia, eastern Europe, and maybe also into Asia. The Caucasus region in the north and northwest is today orthodox territory. Christians once again, but mostly Orthodox Christians. How are they related to Jerusalem? The old Byzantine was the forefather of Orthodoxy.
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GOG AND MAGOG – WHEN DOES IT HAPPEN?
Japhet’s children are both seen in the Armageddon War as well as the Gog and Magog War.
There is still, however, a great difference in time, a one-thousand-year difference between the two wars.
Although Ezekiel seems to many to talk about a war with modern Israel as the victim, the book of Revelation reveals a completely different matter. It places the war mentioned in Ezekiel after a thousand years from Christ’s second coming.
“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.” (Rev 20:7-9)
A gap of a thousand years is shown. The battle of Gog and Magog is said to happen at a resurrection for the lost, a final judgment “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. …And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works” (Rev 20:5 & 12-13)
Revelation “reveals” what is somewhat hidden in the Old Testament regarding this war. This gathering is not nations living in one time period, but people raised up from the dead. The nations and people that are judged are from different timelines. Everyone will be judged, but the main focus is on those who have attacked God’s land in one way or another, and who have persecuted God’s people.
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At Christ’s second coming we saw the beast and the false prophet cast into the lake of eternal fire. So where do the new enemies come from? If they are raised to be judged, their main crimes are already committed in the past, and so they are not “new powers”. The Gog and Magog war is just a final provocation and confrontation. They show they are willing to repeat their former sins. They are led to Jerusalem to be judged because they have come up against Jerusalem already before.
From the book of Daniel, we learn that a beast represents a religious and political system. The false prophet too, here, is a false religious system. It is these that are cast into the lake and will not, therefore, resurrect. The political and religious system is destroyed forever, this is what that means. You can not burn a governmental institution in “hell”, this shows it means God is destroying something so that it can not ever come back. At Christ’s second coming after Armageddon, we see a judgment of the religious institutions and governments. They lose all their power.
Notice that the third instigator mentioned in the Armageddon war is not cast in the lake of fire. About the dragon, it says: “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season” (Rev 20:2-3)
This tells us two things. The dragon is credited to be Satan’s tool to deceive the world and those who would not follow God. Secondly, that he has “deceived people” and will once more.
Revelation 20:4 explains that God is letting humans saved from Earth take part in the judgment. They will be examining God’s judgment that will be executed at the end of the thousand years.
Some claim that the state of Israel is a Jewish empire that will last throughout these thousand years, however, this is a falsehood and a lie. When Christ comes everyone is either taken with Christ to heaven or left for dead. The earth is left desolate in wait for its destruction by fire. (Isa.24) Satan can not deceive anyone, because he is left alone without people to deceive.
After a thousand years, God’s people (saved from all nations and people) will return to earth.
We then see the lost resurrected to receive their final judgment. No one is destroyed before God’s people have had a chance to go through God’s judgments prior to this event, which is why there is a gap in time.
God is wise and intends to leave no room for doubt. The sentencing of the lost does not come immediately. He let the multitudes show that their character and pursuit are unchanged.
The beast, the dragon, and the false prophet were a political system people used in their war against God before the millennium. Once Christ came, they were instantly dead and their agencies destroyed. Now the great masses of people are resurrected to receive their final sentencing after having their cases reviewed by the inhabitants of the New Jerusalem.
The scene where God’s people are surrounded, which we see taking place, is not the Jerusalem we know today. Instead, Revelation reveals that God has made Jerusalem in heaven. “And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband” (Rev 21:2) Gods people mentioned in the Gog and Magog battle are citizens and belong to a city constructed in heaven, not on earth. The new Jerusalem is therefore not an earthly construction by an earthly nation.
The devil has again people to manipulate and he “shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them” (Rev.20:8-9)
Again, the war of Gog and Magog is not directed to Jews or the modern state of Israel, but to a city that consists of followers of Jesus, unrelated to their genetic background.
God does not sentence them at once, He waits till they compass the camp of the saints, showing the whole universe, that if the lost are not sentenced, God’s people will die in this conflict. Making the final sentencing of the lost, an act of self-defense for the saved humans. They can not co-exist. Throughout human history, the nations and people rejecting Christ have suppressed and even killed God’s people. And they are still at it now raised from the dead. The two cannot exist on earth together. God is forced to choose, and He has to choose those who follow His universal standard and Him. The sentenced can not live and exist without Him and His preservation of nature, they would self instinct, and His people can not live with the others without going extinct, because they are hated. So there is no future for both groups, only one, the one who follows God.
Are only the children of Japhet resurrected? The reference to Gog and Magog unlike the use of “beast” and “false prophet” in Revelation 16 might point to the people rather than the religious system. The deceived and deceivers individually, the nations. It says they come from every corner of the earth, from east, west, north, and south.
Either Magog, one son of Japhet, populated the whole world, or they deceived and influenced the whole world, meaning the people to be judged have followed and taken part in their sins. Magog and the land of Gog has been a leader in the world. In the Bible, people are often called by the name of their leader whether they are related or not. God’s people are called by his name, the followers of the beast have his name. Those who repeat the sin and behavior of Babylon are called of Babylon. The use of the name Magog does not mean everyone is from Gog or Magog genetically.
In Ezekiel, it said: “Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him”.
If we remember the book of Jubilee, Tubal, and Meshech were in the area now known as the Latin-speaking areas. Yet God says Magog has been their leader. Here it is revealed further that Gog and Magog are referring to the leaders from Magog: “And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal” Who deceived the Latin people and led them into religious deception? None other than the Pope.
Although the beast was cast into “the lake of fire” at Christ’s second coming, the resurrection at the Gog and Magog war will also represent the resurrection of the millions of the deceived along with their deceivers throughout time. And they do come from all over the world. The Catholic church spread to Asia, America, Africa as well as Europe. They are behind the persecution of God’s people for a long time. Claiming the rights that belong to them, are theirs. They will all rise and receive their sentencing as God promised his people (Rev.6:10-11).
Among those risen are all those who, while they were in majority or in leading positions, have attacked God’s people.
First God’s people were centered in the land of Judah and Israel. Before they were scattered, those who came up against Jerusalem, the nations, came up against God’s people. Most of these nations are actually from the tribes of Japhet.
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Media, Greece, Rome, and European tribes. When God’s people were scattered and vulnerable, Papal Rome attacked them wherever they were. Rome was part of “Magog”. The Crusaders and Britain were all likely also from the tribes of Magog.
Jerusalem was meant to belong to God’s faithful, to Christ’s followers who kept His law (not the papal and patriarchal orthodox who follow their own laws), and not to Jews who rejected Christ (reject God’s atonement). Nor do Muslims who reject Christ’s atonement and parts of His law. Yet God has let them protect the site from a new Jewish temple.
Every nation that has taken Jerusalem as their possession without being faithful to God has robbed God’s people of their land. Christ refused to create another kingdom here on earth while the rebellion was ongoing saying: “My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence” (Joh.18:36)
Thus God’s people have no kingdom here on earth until the final judgement is over. When Christ will not have a kingdom in Jerusalem until the rebellion is dealt with, neither will He tolerate a false Messiah making a kingdom on earth in His name. Jerusalem is sought after for mostly two reasons. The enemy wants to either use it as a platform to speak on God’s behalf (to deceive) or to fight and humiliate God and His truth. Both are severe crimes.
“And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem” (Zec 12:9).
Zecheriah is most likely referring to the Gog and Magog war, where all nations who have come up against Jerusalem and now do it once more, will be judged.
“Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it” (Zec 12:2-3).
Judgment against Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya
Along with all of Japhet’s tribs coming against God’s people throughout time, we see God saving judgment for some extra nations:
“Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet” (Eze 38:5)
I can only here make a suggestion from the Bible to explain the meaning.
- Ethiopia rarely went against God’s people alone, they usually assisted or worked with Egypt. One such example of Kushitte aggression was during the time of King Asa of Judah (2Ch 12:3). Around 911-870 a Cuhite general led the battle at Zephath. Although they did not take Jerusalem, they still battled against God’s people. They often helped Egypt’s aggression. During the reign of Rehoboam they helped the Egyptians loot God’s temple (2Ch 12:3) and speak judgment over the Kushittes on many occasions in the scripture, and it cannot be without reason: “Ye Ethiopians also, ye shall be slain by my sword” (Zep 2:12).
- 2. Persia, as we know, attempted a genocide on God’s people, barely prevented by God through Queen Esther. Jews were not treated well most of the time, and we see in Daniel chapter 10, that even an archangel and Gabriel are fighting with the king of Persia to get him to do the right thing.
“Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come. But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince” (Dan.10:20-21)
Persians have also helped attack the land through different groups during the Arabic and Turkic invasions ACE.
3. The third mentioned is Libya, there is little in scripture showing them attacking either Jerusalem or God’s people in the past. It is worth noting that one of the califates taking Jerusalem after the Bible was written, reigned from ancient Libya. Although claiming descent from Fatima and Ali, their capital was in Raqqada, Mahidia, and Al-Monsuriya, all in the territory of ancient Libya. At this point in time the territory was inhabited by both Arabs and ancient Libyans.
The Fatimid Caliphate reigned between 909-973 CE and did come up against Jerusalem.
Going further back in time, to when Ezekiel recorded God’s word regarding them, Libya had the great coastal city of Carthage. The people also spread over to the Iberian Peninsula and the other great trading cities along the coast of the Mediterranean.
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One of the greatest cruelty and attacks on God’s people in the past was not just by sieging Jerusalem or eying Jerusalem. In Joel, we see a judgment upon the slave trade involving God’s people:
“For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border” (Joe 3:1-5)
The ancient slave trade route was from the Phoenician (Canaanite) coastal cities in Sidon/Zidon. Among those doing the trade were the Greeks, and even the tribe of Dan. Although it is said here they were sold to the Greeks (the tribe of Japhet), the Bible tells us that the Greeks were the main instigator in buying and then displacing them and selling them to others. They were human traffickers.
“Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kind of riches; with silver, iron, tin, and lead, they traded in thy fairs. Javan, Tubal, and Meshech, they were thy merchants: they traded the persons of men and vessels of brass in thy market …Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs: bright iron, cassia, and calamus, were in thy market” (Eze 27:12-13 & 19).
This refers to all the coastal cities around the Mediterranean, and that the trading of “persons of men” was part of. The prophecy of judgment could also refer to all human traffickers who did as the first traffickers. A crime punishable by death in God’s law (kidnapping and selling people).
In Ezekiel, God does not just speak against Gog and Magog, several chapters are devoted against the king and city of Tyre, one of the richest cities at that time because of trade and the human trafficking done at their harbors (Amos 1:9; Joel 4:6; Ezek 27:13).
One of these trade routes of human trafficking went through what was Libya’s coastal city Catrtheage and then Tarshish. The Libyans were also in the army of other nations coming against God’s people or Jerusalem.
It says: “The inhabitants of Zidon and Arvad were thy mariners: thy wise men, O Tyrus, that were in thee, were thy pilots. The ancients of Gebal and the wise men thereof were in thee thy calkers: all the ships of the sea with their mariners were in thee to occupy thy merchandise. Phut were in thine army, thy men of war: they hanged the shield and helmet in thee; they set forth thy comeliness” (Ezek.27:8-10) Phut is Libya, it is called both, and usually the bible says Phut, and then scholars translate it to Libya. Here we learn two things about this nation. They worked with the Zidons who did the trade routes and secondly, it says they joined their armies. They were also in the army with Egypt when they raided God’s temple (2Ch 12:3)
Further in Jeremiah we also see the Libyans join the armies of Egypt once again and are in union with both him and the Cushittes against God’s people. “Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof. Come up, ye horses; and rage, ye chariots; and let the mighty men come forth; the Ethiopians and the Libyans, that handle the shield; and the Lydians, that handle and bend the bow” (Jer 46:8-9)
God already destroyed the city of Tyre and even demanded that the dust of that city would not remain. Because it was the main center of human trafficking we can not do anything but cheer on God’s judgment upon that city and His future judgment upon their traders, the tribes of Japhet, and the ancient Lybians.
On the Great Judgement Day, all the bad guys attacking God’s people, whether God’s people were in the land or not at the time, will have to take their punishment in front of their victims at the Gog and Magog War. Traders and slaves will meet again.
Armageddon and Gog and Magog’s differences and similarities. Summary
Armageddon:
WHO THEY ARE:
In the book of Daniel the fourth kingdom, greater than the former, was Rome. Rome was divided, that is Europe, and one of its horns was Papal Rome.
The dragon was pagan Rom giving its power to the papal beast, while the rest of the empire was divided. Both represent both the Papal church but also Europe (through the horns).
The false prophet is the apostate protestant movement never reforming back to God’s authority. Especially the evangelical and protestant churches of the USA who were given the opportunity to follow God’s authority in peace and prosperity and still chose to follow church ordinances and papal holy times over God. In Europe, the former protestant nations are now mostly atheist (in line with the dragon). Together they are all now a unified military power through different organs
like NATO, and in Europe, through the EU.
They are the instigators to the gathering of nations such as the UN and its subgroups having headquarters in both the US and Europe.
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WHEN:
Right before Christ comes they are involved in a war against God’s standards, they are influenced by “demons” and the doctrines of demons” and Satan “the dragon”. He uses them to further his agenda against God’s place and time of gathering. Satan uses spiritualism to speak to Christians: “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works” (2Co 11:14-15)
THEIR ENEMIES:
- The Kings of the east are a plague to them and their plans.
- God’s people because they keep exposing them as lawbreakers and apostates.
- They are uniting the world under their lead, and all who oppose or rebel their standard will be regarded as enemies
Jesus will come in the middle of what they are doing to stop them Himself. The kings of the east will remain in conflict with them, slow them down, till He comes to save His people. Jesus second coming is also said to come from the east: “For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be” (Matt. 24:27)
FIRST JUDGEMENT:
When Christ comes, the first Judgement takes place. The religious system of the beast and the false prophet is destroyed. Everyone dies at the sight of Jesus: “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: Rev For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?” (Rev 6:15-17)
The wheat and the tares are separated. Christ gathers His faithful, “everyone who is found written in the book of life” and the rest perish.
GOG AND MAGOG
WHO AND WHEN:
Gog and Magog are the same as before. They are the ones misled by the tribes of Japhet or who are from the multitude of Japhet, or from the land of “Gog” (Europe). God’s people are at this time not a purely Jewish state but have a Jewish king (Jesus).
Most likely the event described in Zechariah 12 refers to the Gog and Magog war after 1000 years.
“ The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah” In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.” (Zec 12:7-8)
Here we see the faithful Jews (who have received Christ) have prominence in the city. The fact that they will all be protected and saved is evidence that it is a righteous city, as God could not defend Jerusalem when they did not keep his law. Thus this is the saved group. Notice that it says those saved from Judah and the house of David are given an important role, as they brought the gospel to the world, but there are also inhabitants of this Jerusalem who are not “Judah” and not allowed to “magnify themselves against Judah”. One is the cradle of Christianity, the other the harvest. The real branches and the grafted branches together. This is speaking of Christ’s Israel. He is the lion of Judah. It is therefore not a genetic Jewish city of our day with pagan-christain, and Muslim inhabitants subdued under Jewish control like it is today. This is a righteous city, saved from all groups.
Final judgment
Zechariah then says: “And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.” (Zec 12:9)
Again this must refer to the Gog and Magog war after the thousand years as this is the only time all nations over several generations will come up against Jerusalem together.
As we now have seen, most of those nations came from or were in alliance with the children of Japhet. From the Medes to the Greeks, to the Romans, the Crusaders, the Ottomans, the English, and even the Ashkenazi Jewish groups who reject Christ. All have come up to fight against Jerusalem. None belong there, only some from each group who have turned to God. This final event which happens before paradise is restored is described several times in the Old Testament.
First, organized religions and organizations, governments, are destroyed at Christ’s second coming. Second time people will be judged one by one. Both times their aim is Jerusalem, but the first time they are stopped by Christ’s second coming. After a thousand years, they resume, along with the others throughout time, but this time God’s people are protected and not harmed by the event, and the people instead of winning the battle, receive their sentencing.
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This will be God’s final and great triumph, for after this is over, there will be no more conquests or battles. It is the final battle.
The deceptions in both wars are similar. Both have the dragon as the main deceiver.
The last battle seems to focus especially on all those who have rejected God. Atheists, agnostics, evolutionists, eastern religions, communism, socialism, and all ideologies that are at war against God. The Greeks and Romans, the medo-Persians, the Babylonians, the Egyptians, and the list goes on.
In addition, all those deceived by false Christianity, Orthodoxy, Catholicism, and Protestantism throughout time.
It is one grand confrontation battle unlike anyone ever seen before.
Modern Israel vs Future Jerusalem
Placing the people and events in the Old and New Testament upon the modern state of Israel is damaging to the truth for multiple reasons. False prophets say Magog is just Russia and that Torgarmah is just Turkey, and the kings of the east are God’s enemies. It fits into their narrative that Islam and Russia are the main aggressors in the end time when God points toward the West as a greater danger.
Most evangelicals are no longer understanding the beast or the conflict. Thus they become the “bad guys” while thinking the real bad guys are Islam because they are not warned that they and their nations are among those God is pointing to as the leader of the calamity and the deceptions on earth in the last days.
Islamic nations have caused a lot of issues, they are not saints either and have persecuted God’s people as well. But they are nothing compared to the great deception and influence that is coming from the children of Japhet upon the world. Nor do they claim to represent Christ’s kingdom or speak on Christ’s behalf.
Modern-day Israel is not God’s sanctified people. They can not be protected without Christ’s blood and Christ’s righteousness covering them. A covering they have rejected. They are not the Israel said to be saved, to dwell in safety, while God judges those coming up against it. They are instead part of the problem of the end time.
I can wish to be the king of Spain all I want, I can take the throne and the crown, kill the current king, and start ruling. This does not make me the legitimate ruler of Spain.
Jews may take the land, and claim to be God’s people despite their apostate state, but that does not magically turn their state into God’s Kingdom. God’s Israel and the new Jerusalem can not be conquered, or claimed, every citizen entering its gates is invited by the King of that city, who is Christ.
If Jews do not accept Christ, they can not enter the gates of the city. And this is the city God speaks of in the Old Testament that will be surrounded by the nasions, but protected.
God’s Jerusalem is not a ruling of the UN or anyone else. It can not be purchased with gold or silver. And no one can enter just because they are related to Abraham “Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire” (Luk 3:8-9).
It’s not who we are born as genetically that gives residency like it is in modern Israel today. It is who is “born again” by the spirit. “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (Joh 3:3-6)
Or as Paul, from the tribe of Benjamin, said: “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God” (Rom 2:28-29).
Jews and Magog
Jews have high honors in the New Jerusalem as we just saw. This is for the faithful though, not those who fight God’s atonement. For the Peters and the Pauls. For the Barabases and Stevens’ and all the heroes from then to now preaching God’s gospel unfalsified while honoring Gods laws. They shine like stars, metaphorically speaking. The apostle’s names are on the foundation of the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:14).
Then there is the other group who instead of accepting Christ as the lion and chief of Judah, has used all their energy to fight Him and His followers.
Placing Magog in Europe, Gog as the landmass of Europe, includes the Roman Empire. Here Jews have worked against Christ together with Rome. As they were scattered, even their seeds were mingled with the children of Japhet, with Scythians, the Germans, the Slavs, the Greeks, the Romans, the Iberians, and so on. And just like anyone else, they must rely on their hearts being in the right place. If Jews do not turn to God and quit their alliance with the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet, they are among those who will be judged on the great judgment day. They will be among those surrounding the camp of the righteous, attacking the inhabitants of the new Jerusalem. They will be part of the Gog and Magog war, only the wrong side. Many Jews ignorantly read the Old Testament and think they naturally will be the ones on the inside, they trust their “flesh” will save them, and those who are not Jews by the flesh will be on the outside. This is not what the Bible teaches us.
The aggressors attacking God are attacking those who have “the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” not a specific race. (Rev.12:17; Rev.14:12) The enemies are not those attacking modern Israel, or Jews by the flesh, but those who attack God’s truth, law, and true gospel.
As long as we understand these two important points, it will be easier to understand who is who in the end conflict, genetics aside, and to know what side we should be on. Not trusting our flesh. Even if we are a Semite, does not mean we are not part of Japhet’s group. Genetics is not an issue either one way or another. What is the issue is who is telling the truth and who is lying. Who is deceived and who is not.
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Satan has for a long time tried to confuse all the terms, situations, and people of the scripture. Now many do not understand who the beast is, who the false prophet is, who the real jew of God is, and who God’s people are. What Jerusalem is mentioned and when the events take place. He confuses everything so we are unaware when we are seduced to take sides with the enemy. Thinking the enemy is the hero, and the hero is the enemy.
Satan has made the Islamic countries a scapegoat, to take the attention off the West who he uses to control the world. Stirring up hatred and war, to make Muslims even more hated, so that Christians and Jews gather together against God.
It is nothing but a trick. Islam is not the beast of revelation. He is not the “666”. He is only what is holding them in part back from rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem. Plans God will stop.
To this day, The Ark of the Covenant remains underground on the Muslim side of Jerusalem. It will not be given back to stand in a temple, or used as a weapon for the Jewish and evangelical plans for a Jewish earthly kingdom.